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PostSubject: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   30th September 2013, 6:29 pm

posted by The Fairy October 1st 2011

Witness statements

-Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals)

Day 4: Sep 30



Bob Johnson is called as a witness for the prosecution and there is no record of hearing transcript. The subject is "Pulse Oximeters"

"What is a Pulse Oximeter (PO)?"

"A PO measures the pulse rate and the percentage of red blood cells, that have oxygen attached to them"

"How many models do your company have?"

"Ten or more"

"Lets look at the model NONIN 9500"




"It is a fingertip PO. It measures heartbeat and SpO2"

"What are the two red numbers?"

"The one on the top is the SpO2 (number of red bloodcells and the second one is the heartrate"

"Does it have a seperate monitor?"

"No it does not"

"Does it have an audible alarm?"

"No it does not"

"What is this PO especially designed for?"

"Spotchecking vital signs, for instance in a doctors office, when examining bloodpressure etc, not meant for continuous monitoring"

"It is NOT designed for continous monitoring?"

"No it is specifially labelled against continous monitoring (Caution...)"

"Does it say so in the instructions for use?"

"Yes"

"What is this PO good for?"

"It has no audible alarm, so you need be in the same room and be "on screen with thre patient and do an instant reading (spot checking("

"Does NONIN manufacture POs with audible alarms?"

"Yes"

"How much does the NONIN 9500 cost?"

"App 275 dollars in retail"


"What is the NONIN 2500 A type?"

"It displays the same functions but it has a visible and audio alarm"

"Can it be heard outside a bedroom?"

"Yes it makes a very loud and annoying sound"

"How much does the NONIN 2500A cost?"

"App 750 dollars retail"

"Do you have that as a tabletop version?"

"Yes we do"


"What is the NONIN 9600?"



"It measures the same, heartrate etc and has a blue device, that clips on the patients finger"

"Do you manufacture Nonin Medical's LifeSense

"Yes"

"What is that?"




"It is a Capnography to measure the level of CO2 in your breath in addition to the heartrate, the SpO2, respiration rate etc"

"Do you sell this?"

"Yes"

"How much does it cost?"

"1500 dollars retail"

"Is it possible to lease it and how much?"

"40 dollars a month"


CROSS EXAMINATION by the defense

"Is the NONIN 9500 accurate?"

"Yes"

"Does it measure the percentage of red blood cells?"

"Yes"

"The heartrate and pulse?"

"Yes"

"Constantly?"

"Yes"

"Is it good for spotchecking?"

"Yes"

"What is spotchecking?"

*he explains again

"Can it measure and give an accurate pic.. lets say every 10 or 15 minutes?"

"Perhaps"

"Does it change from minute to minute. Does it detect changes?"

"Yes"

"With a Propofol influenced patient, would you have a control reading?"

"Yes"

"But it is not good for monitoring for another room as you can not see or hear it?"

"It is difficult to monitor a patient without observing the patient for constant monitoring"

"But you can check it every 5 minutes or every 10-15 minutes and the reading would be accurate?"

"If you are constantly watching the screen"

"Does it say that it is for spotchecking only?"

"Yes, spotchecking only"

"And every 10 minutes is not what yo uwould call spotchecking?"

"I have a hard time calling it that"

"If the timelimitation was every 10 sec would that be spotchecking?"

"Not really"

"But you could check every 5 or 10 sec?"

"Yes"

"So it can be used for constant monitoring?"

"No it can not"

"With a 5 or ten minute check it would be adequate?"

"No it is not labelled for that"

"But you can watch it constantly. The only difference is the alarm, right?"

"Correct"

REDIRECT by the prosecution

"The difference is a big difference, right? It is the difference between life and death, right?"

"Yes"

"If you cant see the screen while monitoring, it is useless?"

"Yes"


My comment: Remember from Amirs testimony that Conrad Murray came down to the security trailer a few days prior to June 25th and asked if they had any AAA batteries for his Pulse Oximeter. Amir asked what that was and Murray showed and explained it to him. Was that to tell the court that this was in fact that precise Oximeter, he was using?

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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   1st October 2013, 7:58 am

posted by The Fairy October 4th 2011

AT&T Rep -- Edward Dixon Testifies
Updated 10/03/11 at 10:50 AM


AT&T rep Edward Dixon took the stand this morning -- testifying about Dr. Conrad Murray's cell phone records the day MJ died.

Nothing too interesting -- Dixon testified that the phone Murray called from also belonged to him.

Sprint/Nextel rep -- Jeff Strohm Testifies
Updated 10/03/11 at 11:30 AM


Sprint/Nextel rep Jeff Strohm just took the stand.

He confirmed Murray had a second cell phone with Sprint.



Testimonies of Jeff Strohm and and Harry Daliwall. It seems Murray had 2 (two) cell phones.





Both number were active during the timeline of the event:

Reminder: According to Murray, he gave propofol to the patient at 10:40 am:

DALIWALL'S:



Murray makes a call at UCLA time 2:19 pm before UCLA pronounced the death 2:26 pm.

DALIWALL'S:



STROHM'S:



Both cell phones wer active at the timeframe but the comunications were with different phone numbers.

At 10:34 am Murray makes a call to San Diego (Strohm testimony) in the second cell phone just 6 minutes before he says he gave the propofol to the patient.

And at 11:07 am, after the alleged propofol dose, Murrays receives a call from the same number (.... 3233) at San Diego on the other phone number (Daliwall testimony).

JUST DALIWALL'S:



Finally Murray's left the voicemail to Amir at 12:12 pm 1 minute long and Amir talked to him at 12:15 just for 1 minute.
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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   1st October 2013, 8:03 am

posted by The Fairy October 4th 2011

TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Edward Dixon

Part 49-51 on this channel

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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   1st October 2013, 8:08 am

It seems my new color will be red, no pink in this forum.
Well at the old FF forum I didn't find Jeff Strohm videos for the trial, since I don't know if it was at the videos that were deleted I am adding this extra post:


TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Jeff Strohm





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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   2nd October 2013, 7:12 am

posted by The Fairy Thursday, October 6th 2011

I am posting some of the screenshots which Stephen Marx was able to take from Conrad Murray's cell phone:

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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   2nd October 2013, 7:39 am

posted by The Fairy October 7th 2011



Email from Bob Taylor to Conrad Murray (concerning insurance of This Is It)



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Right side of mail:







Reply from Conrad Murray to Bob Taylor




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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   2nd October 2013, 7:41 am

posted by Nimue October 7th 2011

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Quote from mjmtc on Thursday, October 6th 2011 @ 8:31 AM

I didn't watched it and I didn't read the whole thread I will do this later. I also don't have a clue how this device works.

It was updated at 06/25/2009 (Thursday) 7:03 AM and at this time he got messages from Friday 06/19.09. So didn't he get this mail before? I mean, should these mails from a week before have a different update?

Another question, since then (06/25/09) this iphone didn't not have any other uptades?

How did they get the screen shot with the updates of Jun 25 only, even for mails from the week before? No other mails after that?
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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   2nd October 2013, 7:52 am

posted by The Fairy October 7th 2011

PRELIM:

Witness statements


-Stephen Marx (Retired Computer Forensic Specialist)




TRIAL:

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From TMZ:
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_06dasz11/


Michael Jackson wanted to dedicate his "This Is It" concerts to his children -- and in a heartbreaking conversation Dr. Conrad Murray recorded weeks before the singer died, MJ claims, "I love them because I didn't have a childhood."

You can hear MJ's voice in the recording -- slurred, incoherent -- explaining how he wanted to outdo The Beatles and Elvis with his final concerts, and go down in history as the greatest entertainer who ever lived.

Murray recorded the conversation on his iPhone on Sunday May 10th, 2009 at 9:05 AM. It's unclear why -- but according to prosecutors, it documents MJ under the influence of "unknown agents." It also shows Murray was familiar with Michael in altered states of mind.

The recordingwas uncovered by investigators after they seized Murray's device.


My note about the content of the testimony:

Stephen Marx speaks of:

Emails from Conrad Murrays office to Murray
Emails from LLoyds representative to Murray
Murrays response to LLoyds representative
The slurred voicemail mentioned above in TMZ


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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   2nd October 2013, 8:50 am

posted by The Fairy October 7th 2011

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Quote from Nimue on Friday, October 7th 2011 @ 2:18 AM

It was updated at 06/25/2009 (Thursday) 7:03 AM and at this time he got messages from Friday 06/19.09. So didn't he get this mail before? I mean, should these mails from a week before have a different update?Another question, since then (06/25/09) this iphone didn't not have any other uptades?How did they get the screen shot with the updates of Jun 25 only, even for mails from the week before? No other mails after that?
Oh its a very long and complicated explanation from Stephen Marx. And we also dont know if these email screenshots can have been tampered with somehow. I will have to watch the vid again.

I am interested in the reasons Michael slurred his voice and the mail from LLoyds representative, but it will probably be in my next vid.
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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   2nd October 2013, 8:53 am

posted by GailShaw October 7th 2011

I was reading another forum,and I thought I would share something interesting they found about one of the patients.



As they pointed out......How is it possible to have an exam done on the 13th November 2007,when you were only born on the 08/08/2008?

There was a response to that crazy piece of info.....apparently this was the date that everything was cleared out of Neverland....time to take out the old ,and bring in the new.In other words...The 'death'of Michael Jackson...The King Of Pop[like Jermaines announcement on 25th June 2009].....and bring in Michael Jackson....The Man We Never Knew...

Now back to reading all the days testimonies.

Thanks for all your brillant information

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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   2nd October 2013, 8:54 am

posted by The Fairy October 7th 2011


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Quote from GailShaw on Friday, October 7th 2011 @ 3:07 AM

As they pointed out......How is it possible to have an exam done on the 13th November 2007,when you were only born on the 08/08/2008?

There was a response to that crazy piece of info.....apparently this was the date that everything was cleared out of Neverland....time to take out the old ,and bring in the new.In other words...The 'death'of Michael Jackson...The King Of Pop[like Jermaines announcement on 25th June 2009].....and bring in Michael Jackson....The Man We Never Knew...

You are welcome.. yes the stuff being showed in court has a lot of clues and one of the reasons I posted them here as screenshots. Hehe... yes this is supposed to be one of his aliases..

The date compared to Neverland is very interesting as I am doing a vid about the clues to Michaels trial...

This genius has an eye for every little detail and this particular testimony showed me a lot of things which I will get back to
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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   2nd October 2013, 9:07 am

posted by The Fairy October 7th 2011

PRELIM:

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TRIAL

Pharmacist Tim Lopez Testifies
Updated 10/04/11 at 11:15 AM


Mystery solved ... the pharmacist -- who suddenly went missing in January after admitting he sent Dr. Conrad Murray massive amounts of Propofol -- has been found.

After a "mysterious" trip to Thailand, Tim Lopez found his way back to the US ... just in time for the trial.

Lopez told prosecutors, he first met Murray in 2008, when the doc came into his pharmacy looking for a skin whitening cream for his African-American "patients" suffering from "Vitiligo" -- the same skin condition MJ had.

But In April of 2009, Murray moved on to the more serious stuff, ordering 35 vials of Propofol.

Lopez told prosecutors, Murray kept some of the vials, then asked the rest be sent to an address in Santa Monica ... likely Nicole Alvarez's apartment.

Between April and June, 2009, Murray continued ordering Propofol like it was candy ... hoarding enough sedatives to put down a herd of wild elephants.

In total, Lopez said, he shipped Murray 255 vials of Propofol, 20 vials of Lorazepam and 60 vials of Midazolam.

Judge Pastor just announced he was breaking early because of scheduling purposes. Trial resumes tomorrow morning at 8:45 am.


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posted by The Fairy October 7th 2011

The Prosecution called one more pharmaceutical distributor, showing the court that Murray was getting supplies from two different companies at the same time


TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Sally Hirschberg

Pharmaceutical Distributor



Sally Hirschberg -- a medical supply rep who worked closely with Dr. Murray's office -- claimed Murray's drug orders were out of the ordinary for a cardiologist.

According to Hirschberg, it was extremely unusual for a cardiology clinic -- such as Murray's in Las Vegas -- to order Lidocaine and IV bags.

Hirschberg claimed Murray asked her to ship supplies to a home address in CA -- but she refused, insisting it would violate company policy to ship to a private home.

The supplies were sent to Murray's Vegas office instead.

On June 26, the day after MJ died, Hirschberg said she got a call from Murray's office asking to cancel an order for medical supplies.


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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   2nd October 2013, 9:25 am

posted by The Fairy October 7th 2011

MORE FROM THE HEARING WHICH NIMUE POSTED

Nimue September 17th 2011

TIM LOPES TESTIMONY:

From: http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2011/01/dr-conrad-murray-prelim-day-5-part-i.html

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http://muzikfactorytwo.blogspot.com/2011/06/conrad-murray-trial-based-on-official.html#Tim_Lopez

I am posting this part now just because of the recent news about the disappearance of Tim Lopez:

Witness #18 Tim Lopez

DDA Q: (Ms. Brazil direct.) Through questioning, establishes Lopez’ background. Employed as a pharmacist for 15 years. Business owner of Applied Pharmacy Services, located in Las Vegas, Nevada. Describes his duties as owner; clientele is patients that have been directed by a doctor/facility.

How is [does] your pharmacy compare to, say a corner pharmacy?

Lopez: “We known as compound pharmacy”. They custom-make medicines for patients, altering dosages, adding flavors, etc.

DDA Q: They specialize.

Lopez: Yes.

DDA Q: Let’s say your pet needs a specific medication and it’s not available in a particular dose/size. Do you deal with physicians directly to provide a particular medication their patient might need?

Lopez: Yes.

Through questioning, DDA establishes that in November 2008 he received a phone call from Conrad Murray. He identified himself as African American and that most of his patients were African American and that some of these patients suffer from vitiligo. He was asking about bedoquin product, regarding the strength it comes in. Murray was interested in the 20% strength.


Tim Lopez was the owner of the pharmacy and leaves the country and is not found…

Lopez took contact number and to do a search for the ability to get it.

DDA Q: That’s because you don’t stock that percentage?

Lopez: Yes.

He conducted a search from his suppliers for that product. He couldn’t find it. Dr. Murray didn’t call me back so I didn’t follow up. Didn’t tell him that he was unable to obtain the Benoquin.

He received a call in March, 2009 from Dr. Murray. He asked if I was the same person spoke to previously. I said I was, and Murray inquired as to why he (Lopez) didn’t call back. I explained that in 2008 my pharmacy was in a move transition and that I lost phone records.

He was calling again about Benoquin 20% and it’s availability.

Took his contact information again and checked a little more thoroughly. Lopez did call him back about the drug, April 1st. Told Murray he had been successful in locating a 20% solution.


So until April Murray was not buying propofol, no use of propofol until then.


I told him that I found a supplier and that if he needed more beyond that he couldn’t get it.

He told me that he would like it in packages of 30 gram tubes.

DDA Q: Will you be able to estimate for me the size of a tube you were able to obtain.

Lopez: About the length of a pen,

DDA Q: Similar to about a tube of toothpaste?

Lopez: Yes.



This is from where the tabloids story about toothpaste came from. It was just Benoquin cream.

DDA Q: Did Dr. Murray place an order?

Lopez: Yes. He ordered 40 of the 30 gram, 20%.

DDA Q: In your practice in general, in specifically. Describe the process that you go through to ensure that the person is a physician and allowed to order the medication.

Lopez: I go through and check if the doctor is an MD, DO, or DVM. Get phone, DEA number, Doctor number. (Lopez explains DEA number.)

DDA Q: Did Dr. Murray provide you with all the required information?

Lopez: Yes.

DDA Q: Where did his license originate from?

Lopez: Nevada.


Murray didn’t use and Medical license from California, but from Nevada.

DDA Q: When he placed this order from you, did he specificy who the patient was?

Lopez: He said his patient was African American and that he would instruct in the dispersal of it’s use.

DDA Q: Is that common?

Lopez: When it’s used on a trial basis, that’s normal.


Wow.. 40 tubes of 30 gram in trial basis… Wow…

Dr. Murray came in and picked up his initial order.

Came up to the window, met him, shook his hand and explained that if there was anything we needed to do to change the formulation etc. He said he would pay for the order and let me know. He paid for the order via company check.


I wonder which company check!

DDA Q: Is there any time that he discussed subsequent delivery?

Lopez: Yes, he asked if he could have (orders) delivered to his office. I credit card is required so the order could be billed before they are shipped. Murray agrees.

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posted by The Fairy October 7th 2011


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DDA Q: Next contact he had with Dr. Murray.

Lopez: Several days after April 3rd, he came in to tell me he was happy with the cream.

DDA Q: Did he ask if you were able to provide medications for his other clinics?

Lopez: Yes. He asked about propofol and saline bags.

DDA Q: Did he asked about what strength propofol?

Lopez: He asked about the specific price of propofol that you would be able to provide and saline bags.

DDA Q: Were able to provide him with the information?

Lopez: Subsequent phone calls, I was able to give him the relevant information. After that, on April 6 he placed an order for propofol and saline bags. Telephone order.


The first order came only on April 6

DDA Q: What was the quantity of Propofol. One carton of 100ml bottles. Ten inside the carton. And 2 specific formulations of propofol?

Lopez: Yes. One bottle of 100ml, and it was packaged in a package of 10 from supplier in a sealed carton. We deliver to his office in Las Vegas.

There are 10 individual vials, and they are sealed. That one order, contains 10 vials = 100 ml volume. Twenty ml vial, and has 25 individuals vials in that pack.

DDA Q: Which is a larger size?

Lopez: The 100 mil is larger.

DDA Q: What else did he order?

Lopez: Nine saline bags. And renewed the Benoquin. He asked us to deliver to his office in Las Vegas.

DDA Q: Did you comply with his request?

Lopez: Yes. I used a courier service.


So the first deliver was at Murray’s office, and the 40 tubes of Benoquin where gone, Murray asks for more 40 tubes of 30 gram.

DDA Q: Did the courier of the office call you when the delivery?

Lopez: Yes. Dr. Murray asked if part of the order could be delivered in Santa Monica and the courier called I said it was no problem. He gave an address to the courier. Said he had a clinic in the Los Angeles facility.

DDA Q: Said he saw patients at the LA location that he wanted to have the medications sent there.

Lopez: Yes. Yes, he said they (meds) would be under his control. Lopez verifies the address of Nicole’s apartment in Santa Monica (SM).

Murray takes some of vials from the packed and The courier returned to the pharmacy with that location. The remainder came back to the pharmacy. Shipped to Santa Monica per Dr. Murray’s request.

On next date, ordered 2 separate orders of propofol. Ordered 4 boxes . Each box has 10 100ml. Packaging the same manner as before.

Second order on April 28th 2009; 1 box 20 ml of propofol (25vials)..

DDA Q: Was that order to be delivered to SM address?

Lopez: Yes.


Wow, with this amount he was treating all the patients in a hospital. So, by the end fo April the shipment of propofol goes to Nicole’s apartment.

DDA Q: Another order. Prior to order, did Dr. Murray ask about lorazapam and midazolam.. Wanted inject diazapam?Are any of those available in any other form?

Lopez: Also available in oral lorazapam.

DDA Q: Did he also placed an order for a tray, of lorazapam vials and two trays of diazapam.

Lopez: Total of 20 diazapam yes. Total of 10 of lorazapam yes.

Still verified his DEA numbers. Murray instructed Lopez to mail these to SM and he complied with that request.

DDA Q: Did you have a conversation with Dr. Murray?

Lopez: Discussed the Benoquin cream. Wanted to know if there was a formula that was less greasy, and wanted to know if they could put it in a larger package and if it could “look better.”

DDA Q: Did Dr. M inquire about about hydroquioine?

Lopez (paraphrased): Asked about what strengths needed. Described same patient population and wanted to try that.


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posted by The Fairy October 7th 2011


Nimue : Almost there... hehehe:

He inquired about energy formulations, some formulations that would give increased wakefulness. I suggested many drugs that had a side effect of alertness. He didn’t want it to be non-narcotic and as natural as possible.

He didn’t want something prescription, he wanted something over the counter. Told him it had to have something with caffeine in it, he couldn’t get away from that. Murray states the energy formula was for HIMSELF.

DDA Q: Did he say that it was he himself that was in need of some energy formulation? You gave him some ideas and that you would get back to him.

Lopez: Yes.

He said his patient was complaining of injection pain, and wanted to know if I could make a topical analgesic. He indicated he wanted lidocaine only.

DDA Q: Does it come in a cream?

Lopez: It comes in a gel.

DDA Q: It also comes in an injectable form?

Lopez: Yes it does.

DDA Q: So some products to reduce injection site pain?

Lopez: Yes.

Telephonic order May 12th. New. Ordered 4 boxes of propolfol 100 ml in each box. 1 box of 20ml vial 25 vials, two trays of 2 ml diazlpam (20 vials), lidocane 2% cream I made for him, 60 grams 1 tray of 5 ml flumanezil(10 vials(Used to reverse benzodiazepines).

DDA Q: Did he want these items shipped to SM address?

Lopez: Yes.

May 14th 2009. Another phone conversation, discussing placement of an order. Briefly dicussed Benoquin, wanted to change vehicle of what it sits in to make it less greasy and sticky on the skin. Worked on different formulations to make that work. (Murray said) the lidocaine 2% was not strong enough.

DDA Q: What did you do.

Lopez: I made it 4%.

DDA Q: Did you prepare samples to address his concern?

Lopez: Sent him three 10 gram samples to see which one best suited his needs.

Products sent include:

4% lidocaine cream 60 gram

1 Benoquine in specific base

1 Benoquin in specifc base

1 Benoquin in specific base

At the time, I was planning a trip, so I was going to the airport, I could save him on the shipping.

DDA Q: What was Dr. Murray’s response.

Lopez: He said that wasn’t necessary, just ship it FedEx to SM address.


Murray didn't want him to deliver the shipment..

DDA Q: Turning now to June 1st 2009 conversation. Picking up on energy request he had made some weeks prior.

Essentially 3 products available over the counter and could put them in 1 capsule. Was that agreeable to Dr. Murray?

Lopez: Yes it was.

DDA Q: Did you (combine) caffeine, aspirin and ephedrine?

Lopez: Yes. Made 30 capsules. Made that formulation.

DDA Q: Were those items included placed (in an order) later on in June

Lopez: Yes it was.

DDA Q: Did you include this energy on a different invoice?

Lopez: I included them with the shipment.

June 10, 2009 another 1 tray of lidocaine 30 ml injectable (25 vials). 4 boxes of propofol 100ml (40 individual vials)2 boxes of propofol 20 ml, total of 50 bottles;20 tubes of hydroquinone 8% (60 gr each), 20 tubes of Benoquin 20% (60 gram each); 30 capsules of energy pills.

DDA Q: Where shipped to?

Lopez: Santa Monica

June 15th 2009, Murray placed another order.

DDA Q: Did he comment about the energy formula?

Lopez: He was happy with the results and required about pricing.

(Through testimony, other items ordered)

1 tray 10 ml lorazapam (10 vials) injectable

2 trays injectable 2 ml diazapam 20 vials;

DDA Q: Saline bags?

Lopez: Ordered 12 normal saline bags.

DDA Q: Where were these items shipped to ?

Lopez: Santa Monica.

DDA Q: During any of these orders, did Dr. Murray ever disclose the name of any patient that the order would be used by?

Lopez: No.

DDA Q: June 25th, 2009, did you hear on the news that Michael Jackson had died?

Do you remember the last time you had a conversation with Dr. Murray?

Lopez: 23 or 24th.

It sounded like Dr. Murray was driving the car with the window down...it was very noisy it was brief conversation. Never talked to him again after that.


The next part is pretty much the same what he has said so far, but there are names or initials for receiving the shippment:


DDA produces an invoice. People’s 52. Sales receipt for an order from Dr. Murray. DDA Q: What does it reflect?

Lopez explains (paraphrasing) 66# generated by the software. First receipt tracks his first order of the Benoquin cream.

DDA Q: Another order, another receipt. date April 6th, 2009; Lopez: Yes
DDA Q: Reflects the customer Conrad Murray?Lopez: Yes. (paraphrasing) Reflects first purchases for propofol: 10 vials of propofol, 25 individual vials; Benoquin; saline

DDA Q: (Another exhibit); Lopez: FedEx bill shows that I sent a package to the SM address. DDA Q: Is that the Applied Pharmacy account number with FedEx? DDA Q: Does it reflect the shipping of propofol, in exhibit 53? Lopez: Yes.Verifies the misspelling on the FedEx invoice of Nicole’s last name. Verifies the address, etc.

DDA presents next exhibit 55. Another Applied Pharmacy receipt. Date April 26th, 2009, Dr Murray’s next order 4 trays of propofol 100 ml,1 tray of 20 ml, shipped to CM at his request. DDA Q: Do you recognize another receipt FedEx receipt that corresponds to the above shipment? Lopez: Signed for looks like a P. Maria. Verifies all the information on the FedEx receipt.

DDA produces Exhibit 57 Another Applied Pharmacy receipt? Lopez: Yes. DDA Q: … Or rather Invoices? Lopez: Yes. Benzodiapazenes. Dated April 30th 2009. Lorazapam,diazepam. Next exhibit FedEx tracing receipt corresponds with the above invoice, verifying the name, address, etc. DDA produces Exhibit 59; Another Applied Pharm receipt 5/12 2009 purchase by Murray, M.D. Receipt reflects 2 orders 100 ml and 20 ml and lorazapam, diazepam 4 individual trays of the propofol and 1 tray of the 25 (ans);

Exhibit 60 reflects FedEx shipping invoice. Lopez verifies that it goes with the above order. Looks like it’s signed by someone named P. Mason.

Exhibit 61 APS sales receipt 5.14 2009 Subject of delivery Lidocaine 4% cream,.DDA Q: Was also shipped to SM address? Lopez: Yes.

Exhibit 62 reflects FedEx invoice. Exhibit 63 DDA Q: Recognize peoples 63 as one of your sales June 10, 2009? lists items on invoice (Sprocket note: can’t catch any of this) Lopez: Yes.

DDA and Lopez go through several exhibits. Fed 64 reflecting FedEx receipt corresponding with above exhibit. Signature appears to be Nicole’s.

Exhibit 65 AP sales receipt. Reads off contents of invoice quickly. Exhibit 66 FedEx receipt. Final delivered June 16th, 2009 DDA Q: How many vials of lidocaine injectable did Dr. Murray (unintelligible)

Lopez: 25 of the 30; DDA Q: How many vials of the lorazapam; Lopez: Ten (trays?) 60 of the 2 liter of diazapam. Propofol: smaller vials total #? 125 vials of this? Larger? 130 vials.

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posted by The Fairy October 7th 2011


Nimue This is the last part of TIM LOPEZ testimony and I will let you to think about a bit before I post anything else

Cross by defense attorney Low.

Q: Is it fair to say as a pharmacist, part of your job is to provide prescription, medication to doctors?

Lopez: Yes.

Q: There are a lot of laws and rules and regs you are supposed to (comply with)?

Lopez (paraphrsasing): Before you [can] be a good pharmacist, is follow the rules, is before filling a new prescription, you need to verify the validity … of the license.

Q: No one can just call up and get some medicine sent.

Lopez: That’s correct.

Q: Like a good pharmacist you did that in the case of Dr. Murray?

Lopez: Yes.

Q: And everything checked out.

Lopez: Yes.

Q: Is it true, there are not restrictions on where these meds can be sent?

Lopez: Can you repeat that?

Q: Do you not have the same laws and protocols as to where you send it?

Lopez: I just send it to where he directs.

(That question is broad.)

Q: Other than that, you have no other due diligence?

(Sprocket note: apparently, there are no other verifications that he needs to do, prior to shipping those medications. [ed. note: meaning it was okay to send medications to a private residence])

Q: Now, you can’t ship them to someone who should not have them...correct. So when you ship them you don’t have any restrictions as to only shipping that drug to a hospital do you?

Lopez: No. I just know that he’s a licensed physician. (and that he’s allowed to deliver).

Q: Asks about the first order, shipped to his clinic via Lopez’ own courier. And the courier, Juda, said he thought Dr. Murray was one of the nicest people he had ever met?

Lopez: That’s correct.

Q: Very common, is it not, that when doctors order they don’t put the patient’s name, and that’s for privacy. Sometimes until the procedure is done, only the doctor knows who the patient might be.

At this time, Dr. Murray did not tell you who his patients were in (Santa Monica)?

Lopez: No.

Defense attorney asks questions about a patient’s privacy, and about a high-profile patient, and that there would people out there who could get this information and write their story.

Q: So, if someone was going to make sure to ensure that patient’s privacy, you wouldn’t send that to a high profile person’s house now would you?

(Objection, sustained.)

More question about high profile clients, and selling information. (Objection, sustained.)

Q: Also another doctor that you were selling propofol to?

Lopez: No.

Q: How about David Adams?

Lopez: No.

Q: The larger ones that held 100ml. How could you open those vials? How could you get the solution out of the vial?

Lopez: A needle. I suppose there is another device (I miss the rest of the answer.)


The 2 sites missed some parts of it in the testimony, so I used a mix of both sites, but some parts are still missing in both sites, if I find more accurate info about this subject I will correct later.

A neddle would be needed to take the propofol out of the vial and add to a glass of juice!

...

PS: The investigators didn't search for the rest of the Murray's order, they search the Applied Pharmacy, Murray's office, but I couldn't find any search at Nicole apartment for the rest of propofol order, that wasn't at Michael's house. What they found at Michael's house was not all of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Tim Lopez and Sally Hirschberg (pharmacists) Bob Johnson (NONIN medicals) Stephen Marx (Computer Forensic) Dona Norris (Communications director) Phone Companies Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)   2nd October 2013, 9:40 am

posted by The Fairy October 7th 2011


Nimue September 17th 2011 @ 12:18 PM

This is from Hotice blog and I appologize to her. She does not like the copies of her work without permission, but she does not blog for a long time and I haven't seen her around.

I give her all the credits here. She is a professional in the medical field so and I thought would be good to know the dosage and that kind of thing at this time… To read about her findings on the AR, she did a really good job, please got to:

http://xscapemj.blogspot.com/2010/03/anatomization-of-da-troot-aka-autopsy.html

OBS: THE AUTHOR OF THE BLOG DELETED IT

Saturday, April 3, 2010

It's time for your Propofol

[Legal Notice: The content of this post is original work owned by me. If you are interested in sharing this material on other websites/forums/blogs/print or internet-based publications, you' may do so CONDITIONED you do cite this blog as your original source & duly inform me before hand. ]

So by know everyone knows the plot of the story that’s been flying around. Dr. Troot gives the milk, aka Propofol to the king of pop & then the king is no more.

Based on the autopsy report & the anesthesiologist consult ordered by the coroner’s office, the amount of Propofol found in Michael Jackson’s body is consistent with the amount present in patients undergoing general anesthesia for a general/major surgery. Below you can find a detailed dosage calculation as instructed by FDA. This is the exact method anesthesiologists use to calculate the amount of Propofol required to put a patient under anesthesia. It is worth mentioning that besides the patient’s medical history, his/her weight & age are deciding factors on how much anesthetic a patient might require.

My aim is to clarify that the picture given to us through the alleged autopsy & the unsealed affidavits don't fit together & are full of holes & discrepancies.

a) Induction of General Anesthesia:

General anesthesia by Propofol is induced through IV injection & it usually takes a little less than a minute to achieve total unconsciousness. Patients under 55 years of age require 2 to 2.5 mg/kg of Propofol injectable emulsion whether unpremedicated or premedicated using oral benzodiazepines (i.e. Lorazepam etc). For induction, Propofol injectable emulsion should be titrated (approximately 40 mg/10 seconds) based on the patient’s response until signs of anesthesia are observed. The existence of other benzodiazepines does not affect the induction rate of Propofol, it rather affects the rate at which respiratory or cardiac depression can happen.

[This means that the combination of drugs given to Michael was not fatal, as a matter of fact it is often customary to give a patient some oral benzodiazepines (depending on their heart condition) before administering Propofol to ease anxiety & pain!!!]

b) Maintenance of General Anesthesia:

Once again in patients under 55 years of age once the anesthesia is induced, it can be maintained by administering Propofol injectable emulsion by continuous infusion or intermittent IV bolus injection (this means irregular injection of Propofol in single large doses, but this is usually not recommended as the patient could wake up in between the injections. In Michael's case we were told that the goal was to achieve sleep, hence infusion is the way to go.)

Maintenance by infusion of Propofol injectable emulsion should immediately follow the induction dose in order to provide continuous anesthesia. During the initial period following the induction dose, higher rates of infusion are generally required (150-200 mcg/kg/min) for the first 10-15 minutes. Infusion rates should subsequently be decreased 30%-50% during the first half hour of maintenance. Generally a rate of 50-100 mcg/kg/min should be achieved in adults under 55 during maintenance.

Once again it is worth mentioning that presence of other drugs that cause CNS (central nervous system) depression & lead to respiratory depression can increase the effect Propofol has on CNS. They are not fatal together, they just cause faster depression & that’s why this anesthetic is supposed to be administered in a controlled setting where the patient can be monitored every second he/she is under anesthesia.
Let’s calculated how much Propofol needed to be administered to a man of Michael’s age & weight to keep him under continuous anesthesia:

Age: 50 yrs
Weight: 61.7 Kg

To induce anesthesia we need 2-2.5 mg/kg, so for a 61.7 kg patient we need at least 123.4 mg = 12.34 ml & at most 154.25 mg = 15.43 ml, to be safe let’s say an average of these two amounts, namely 138.83 mg = 13.88 ml of Propofol to induce anesthesia.

In order to maintain the anesthesia we need 50-100 mcg/kg/min. Although we need a higher does in the first 10-15 minutes of the maintenance process, for the purpose of simplifying our calculation & to avoid use of non-layman methods, let’s use 75 mcg/kg/min as the middle marker between the maximum & minimum doses, in order to get an average dose that is not too high or too low.

To calculate the amount needed to maintain anesthesia using the average dosage required:

75 mcg x 61.7 kg (weight of patient) = 4627.5

We know that (1000 mcg = 1mg ) therefore : 4627.5 / 1000 ~ 4.63

Also (1hr = 60 min) therefore: 4.63 x 60 = 277.8 mg/hr 27.78 ml/hr is the average doserequired to maintain at least one hour of anesthesia.

*Note: if you were wondering how the conversion between mg & ml is done here is the explanation:
[According to FDA each vial of Propofol injectable emulsion, regardless of size, gives 10 mg of Propofol per 1 ml. Using the below formula which is used to calculate ml/hr rate for anesthesia maintenance:

Dose ordered / dose available x volume available : 277.8 / 10 x 1 = 27.78 ml / hr is required to maintain anesthesia for one hour. ]

Let’s say Michael wanted to get at least 6 hrs of sleep every night, let’s calculate how much Propofol that would require:

He’d need an average of 138.83 mg = 13.88 ml to induce anesthesia & an average of 277.8 mg/hr = 27.78 ml to maintain the anesthesia per hour, for 6 hrs of sleep we need 1805.63 mg = 180.56 ml of Propofol for just one night!

If Michael was using Propofol as they allegedly said for 6 week prior to June 25 every night, they would need a total of 75836.46 mg = 7583.65 ml = 7.58 liters of Propofol!!!!

Propofol is not a controlled substance, but it’s not like gum that you could go to the store & pick up a carton full of it & not raise any suspicion; somewhere someone should have picked up on the fact that this Dr. is buying way too much Propofol!

It is my personal opinion that Michael Jackson simply could not have received such huge amount of Propofol during course of 6 weeks without showing some side effects during his waking hours; he simply would not be able to do any sort of physical activity yet alone go through rigorous rehearsals & deliver. Medically speaking that is just not possible!


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posted by The Fairy October 25th 2011

TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Dona Norris (Beverly Hills PD Communications Director)



Beverly Hills PD Communications Director Dona Norris discussing the 911 call the day Michael Jackson died.

Dona Norris explained the paper on the 911 call.

No questions from the Prosecution.


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posted by Nimue October 25th 2011

She says the Sunset BL address is the tower the cell phone reached.



According to her the LAT and LON is related to the tower (They didn't show what they are projecting that was the only screen shot I got). Nareg makes a big deal of the cell phone but nothing else.
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posted by The Fairy October 25th 2011

Beginning of this vid is her testimony

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posted by The Fairy October 25th 2011

TRIAL

Witness statements

-Alex Supall (surveillance specialist for the LAPD)




Lawyers for Dr. Conrad Murray are insinuating ... the LAPD did a sloppy job retrieving evidence from Michael Jackson's surveillance cameras the day the singer died -- failing to make copies of crucial footage before it was erased.

The defense's second witness -- a surveillance specialist for the LAPD named Alex Supall -- just testified, he only handed over a few minutes of surveillance footage to investigators, showing MJ arriving home for the last time at around 12:45AM on June 25th, 2009.

As TMZ first reported, Murray's lawyers have had a big problem with how investigators only recorded a small fraction of surveillance footage from that day -- and demanded to see the entire 24-hour tape.

Specifically, Murray's lawyers want to see who entered MJ's house during that period -- footage that could prove their theory that evidence in the house was tampered with.

Problem is ... the cameras run on a 24-hour loop -- so, Supall testified, if the footage hasn't been transferred ... it's replaced with new footage and cannot be retrieved.

Supall said he only copied those few minutes to establish a timeline of when the singer returned home after his last rehearsal on June 24 -- everything else is gone forever.

http://www.tmz.com/category/conrad-murray-trial#.TqZvzXKaDh4
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The video with testimony and surveillance footage


From 11:40



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posted by Nimue on Tuesday, October 25th 2011

The surveillance video is at 23:19

On car comes in at 0:48 am

another car at 0:50 am

and two cars at 0:58 am and we see the fans

One of the cars moved away at 1:00 am

One car leaves the house at 1:06 am, some fans go after it.

One security guy goes outside at 1:07 am and the car is still there.

At 1:16 am the fans outside:



This was from the camera number 6.


This one is from camera number 1 (outside the gates):



Looks like Murray's car.

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