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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 8:36 am

posted by Nimue on Sunday, October 2nd 2011

When the nanny came up he walked downstairs with the children..

He was back upstairs was the same, Alberto wasn’t assisting Murray with CPR, Murray was by himself at that point. Alberto was standing all waiting for the ambulance.

“Did you ask Alberto if 911 has been called? Yes”, and he answered he did. First question he asked.

“Did you come downstairs again? ‘

“Yes, Alberto was pacing up and down, Murray was doing whatever he was trying to do and I realize there was a possibility the ambulance could take some time I came downstairs asked the security to line up the vehicles, just in case we might take him by ourselves”.


(he doesn't talk about Murray asking if anyone knew CPR)

He escorted the paramedics to the room when they arrived(he didn’t say he went upstairs again before that as in the hearing).

After the paramedics arrived he leaves the room twice, once to put the children in the car for them not see his body on the gurney. The second time to alert the security they probably will come out soon, because the paparazzi were already climbing on the trees

(did we see any paparazzi’s doing so?)

He says he saw an I.V stand at the room. He does not see any other medical equipment.

(he does not say he sit down at the bedroom)

“Did you observe Mr. Michael Jackson being brought downstairs by the paramedics? Yes I was already downstairs when that happened”.

The children were in the vehicle.

Did you see Mr. Jackson being loaded into the paramedic’s vehicle? Yes, Dr.Murray got in the vehicle with the paramedics.


(According to Ben’s video Faheem was at the gate)

And he followed behind the ambulance.

Note: He does not talk about Michael Amir at all. He says he talked to Amir at the phone at 12:23 am but at any moment Amir was in contact with him at the house. Amir got there after the paramedics but it seems no one talked to Amir. Kai also didn’t see Amir there. Suddenly Amir was in the car going to UCLA.

At UCLA:

When they arrived the paparrazi’s were trying to surround the paramedics. “First that we did was take our jackets and shield him so they couldn’t get too many shots and we shield his children with our jackets and help carry them inside.”

He contacted the head of security at the hospital, a police officer, to let him know who was with them and who wasn’t.

“Did you see Michael being taken to the emergency room?”
(very casual don’t you think?)“Yes

He was asked what he was doing:

“A lot was going on, his family arriving..
(the family didn’t get there so fast) people trying to sneak in and was back and for between checking on him what was going on and checking with security making sure his family could get in”.

After he learns Michael was pronounced dead, Dr. Murray approaches to him.

Murray says to him: “he was hungry and wanted something to eat and he needed a ride”

“I told him, “we cannot take you anywhere; I told him there was a cafeteria at the hospital”

He saw Murray leaves through the glass door. He didn’t see Murray walking out of the building but he could see Murray was leading in that direction.


Now the videos from UCLA:

After you see Dr. Murray leaving at the button of the video did you see him again? No.

But you don’t know if he entered the building again? No


Next the cross-examination
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 8:44 am

posted by Nimue on Sunday, October 2nd 2011

Some parts may be missing:

Cross-examination by Ed Chernoff (boring):

I will start in the part Ed borrows the pointer from the prosecutors;

Video UCLA:

Ed asked if he knew what was that room (arrow in the pic), who was in that room and what was going on there. Faheem says NO.

Did you ever go in there? YES

When? I am not sure of the time. I believe we spoke to the detectives in that room..


(tricky, the detectives got there after 5 pm, and at this time is only 5 pm)

Prior before you see Dr. Murray leaving the hospital did you see him going talk to the police? NO Sr.

You don’t even know if Dr. Murray leaves the hospital at that time, right? I watched Dr. Murray leaving the hospital


Showing the video of Murray leaving at 5 pm
Chernoff asked what time he left the hospital. Can you estimate? NO. Can you estimate 6 pm? He does not know the time.




The first time you made the statement about this cream was Aug 31st 2009? Yes

And you made this statement at the same time at the same office Mr Alvarez made the statement. You were at the same office. Objection.

Where were you when you made the statement? I was at my lawyers office.

Who else was there? Objection. Other human beings were there? O bjetion
(Michael ???hehehehe)

Mr Alvarez was there?No

Was alberto Alvarez at the lawyers officer?Objection

Bla.. bla.. bla talking about if his lawyer has offices, kitchen……bla
Was Alberto Alvarez there? No

Did you travel with Alberto Alvarez? No

Did you see Alberto Alvarez when you gave your statement that day? I can recall.

Can you not remember if he was there?

I can remember if I’ve seen him that day before I gave my testimony.

After? I don’t recall

What about Michael Amir, do you recall seen him there? Yes sr.

Have you worked with Alberto before Oct 28? No

Have you worked with Michael Amir before that time? No. But you knew him? Yes

Where did you meet Michael Amir? Objection 350 352

Socially

Talking now about his shift working for Michael
(Ed is really boring)

He would accompanied Michael wherever Michael was going

Taking Michael to Dr. Klein, asking if Michael would leave Klein’s office a little intoxicated. Yes.

Michael being brought downstairs from Klein’s office by one of his staff. Yes
(Jason).

Michael makes the statement once to Faheem; “You must think I am nuts”, for going so often to the doctor and Faheem says Yes. I just let him know that I don’t see him in a way or the other.

He told Faheem the he had a skin disease and that his doctor says he [Michael} has to go to visit the doctor….

Now finally Ed is going to talk about Carolwood

Have you seen back to the house coming other doctors, nurses? Prosecutors objection: make clear about the time.

Let’s say one month prior his death. No not to the house.

You said DR. Murray came in the evenings. When you took Michael to see Dr. Klein Dr. Murry didn’t accompany you? NO

Do you know who Cherryl Lee is? Yes

She is a nurse who was hired to take care of his children and help out.

Do you know cherryl Lee? Yes, professionally.

She treats you. Yes

She is a friend of yours? No

Did Cheryl Lee ever spend the night at Carolwood drive at Michael Jackson’s house? Not to my acknowledge

Do you recall an event on Jun 21st 2009 when you called Cheryl Lee on behalf of Michael Jackson? Yes

Do you recall why did you call her? Yes, Michael Amir told me that MJ said had some weird symptoms one of his hands was hot one of his feet was cold and he needed a doctor to come and see him if everything was ok.
(Juns 21st and he didn’t ask for Murray???)

Did you first call Dr. Murray? NO, just called Cherryl Lee

When you called her did you speak to her or did Michael speak to her? I don’t recall, I believe I got the voicemail and I left her a message. Eventually a did speak to her.

What advice was given to you by Cherryl Lee? I don’t recall.

Did you have a conversation with Cherryl Lee about Michael Jackson symptoms? Yes. What did she tell you to do? I don’t recall.

Did you talk to Dr. Murray about the call to Cheryl Lee? No I didn’t talk to Dr. Murray.

So far the defense didn't ask any question they had asked during the hearing.

One more to go...
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 8:52 am

posted by Nimue on Sunday, October 2nd 2011

He says he received a phone call saying Mr Jackson had this symptoms and he should contacted the nurse Cherryl Lee.

“Michael Jackson was standing there when you called Cherry Lee, wasn’t he?” No he wasn’t”.

“He was.. ““No sir.”

“ Where was he?”” I don’t know sr.”

“I wasn’t inside his home, I might even been at the property, I don’t know what my location was I know I receive the call”

“ The call you received was from Michael Amir?”” Yes”. “And Cherrily Lee?”” NO”.

“You spoke to the detectives in two different occasions, right?”” Yes”

“And you never didn’t tell them about Cherrly Lee situation, did you?” “The situation never came up”.

“but you did tell the police officers on Jun 25 that Dr. Murray was trying to help Michael Jackson to sleep, didn’t you?”” Yes I did”.


( I don’t get the connection here)

“How did you know that?” “ Rumors”.

“The house doesn’t not have any telephone line, does it?” “I don’t believe so”

(now Ed makes weird questions about cops and ambulances)

“If the police come to the gate you wouldn’t automatically let them in?”” No sr.”

“If an ambulance comes to the gate you wouldn’t automatically let them in?’ “No Sr.”

Now he is going to talk about the call of Amir that day:

He is asked when he got to Carolwood for his shift.

He explains the why he can leave the house in the middle of the shift, talking about the house security and he had to be there only if Michael needed to go to some place.

Ed asks if there was any surveillance camera. He replies yes. Asked if the police requested them, he replies yes.

“Was there any special request for the surveillance tape any particular time? “ “He doesn’t recall.’

He is asked if there was someone else with him and the technician to retrieve the surveillance tapes, he says he does not recall.

Whatever LAPD got away with was all that was available. he does not know .

“Did you happen to see the amount of the tape that was download?”...
(I couldn’t hear)..

Now asking when he got to Carolwood drive after Amir called:

Ed asked Faheem if he went through the gates and surveillance camera to get in the house after he turned around but Amir requested on Jun 25. He says he was with his wife and she drop him off and he entered.


(weird, he was with his wife all the time then. He goes to work, check the security at the house, leaves to the bank, Amir calls him, he turns around, takes around 3 minutes to get back to the house and he was all the time with his wife)

He goes upstairs to the bedroom

How many times you go up and downstairs? 4 or 5

The reasons:

1. to get the children out of sight;

2. to get the vehicles lined up;

3. to get the ambulance up;

4. to prepare the security to leave;

Ed asks if he remembers what was on I.V stand, he replies he does not remember.

Asks if he saw any oxygen tanks. He doesn’t recall.

Vials, needles and medical things.. he doesn’t recall.

Ed asks if he recall at the first time he testified… he says he doesn’t think so

He is asked if he happened to know where he was going when he left the hospital. He doesn’t recall.

He says they received a call from the security left in the house and they said the detectives arrived and they want to ask some questions and they went back to the house.

He spoke to police officers at Carolwood.

He spoke to detective Abdul at Carolwood, standing to the right of the front door.

He stays there for 30 minutes.

The detective wanted to talk to the nanny and he took the detective to “Katherine’s house”.

Was Alberto there? Not that I recall.

Did he show up later? Not that I recall.

Did you see the children there? Yes I did.


Showing picture:



He is talking to detective Abdul..

Who is in front Amir? Alberto Alvarez



Near to Alberto Alvarez do you know who is that gentleman, with glasses hanging on his shirt? No sir.

Did you talk to him? Not that I recall.


(Next pic. Note: Murray’s car is inside the house….)



Who is these 2 individuals? Derek Cleveland and Eric Mohammad

(Derek is the one with grey suit??? This guy was at UCLA parking lot.. was Derek with them?)

Not too much to compare with the first hearing the defense made different questions.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 8:56 am

posted by The Fairy October 4th 2011

Very nice job Nimue.. a lot to read and to study... and in case we need to go back...

Parts 7-11 on this channel:
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 9:02 am

posted by MaryJo on Saturday, October 1st 2011


Quote :
Quote from mjmtc on Saturday, October 1st 2011 @ 9:33 AM


So he left the room with the children (I thought it was Alvarez) and took them to the nanny Rosalina Faheem, which I think should be watching this children from the beginning.And he parks the all the cars in front of the front door, weird thing to do when a 911 call had already being made. Shouldn't he clear the doorway?
Was this the day or the the other day??

I think he parked the cars in front of the front door the other day.

Quote :
Quote from mjmtc on Saturday, October 1st 2011 @ 9:33 AM

He was the one to let the paramedics in, leaving the cars parked in the way of the ambulance...
Theres something off about these bodyguards/securityguards & paramedics.

Here I go again talking about my ex-husband. For years he worked as corporate security guard & private security guard and hes also city cop. He would tell me about his duties & responsibilites.

Professional Security people are highly trained to be observant & meticulous...meaning when they walk into a room they will remember detailed stuff, especially in emergencies, stuff that the normal person wouldnt see. Security people keep written time sheets / logs about everthing that happens throughout their shift which includes dates & times of ALL activities.

Same goes for the paramedics...paramedics are very much like the cops in that they are highly trained for emergency situations & they are observant of their surroundings, they keep time logs & make written reports..they will see & remember stuff that the lay person doesnt.

So, to have these security guards & paramedics contradicting each other, saying they dont remember or recall times or dont remember stuff in the room, is just plain bogus. Either they are not real security people and paramedics or they dont wanna talk and are deliberately contradicting each other.

BTW my ex husband is 5'9 & 135lb. Hes thin but hes healthy & active. So when they say MJs skinny at that height & weight...yes hes skinny, but just becuz hes skinny doesnt mean hes sickly.


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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 9:25 am

posted by The Fairy October 1st 2011


PRELIM:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)


Staples Center, call from Amir, getting into the house

Direct examination by DDA David Walgren

The witness's attorney Mr. Carl Douglas present. (Carl Douglas of OJ fame.)

Director of Logistics.

TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

MJ's Security Guard:
Murray Had Me Remove Vials



Updated 9/29/11 at 8:48 AM

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/09/29/0929-alberto-alverex-video.jpg
Michael Jackson's security guard Alberto Alvarez -- the man who called 911 the morning MJ died -- just took the stand, claiming Murray asked him to remove several vials of Propofol before he called an ambulance.

Alvarez claims he quickly arrived at the scene on June 25th, 2009 -- and saw Murray performing one-handed chest compressions on MJ, who was still in the bed. According to Alvarez, Murray immediately asked him to pack away several vials and an IV bag.




Click here... it's not over yet: http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/29/people-vs-dr-conrad-murray-aeg-michael-jackson-manslaughter-bodyguard-alberto-alvarez/#continued

"What was your job?"

"Director of logistics. I would be head of the advanced team to survey hotels, roads, venues"

"What were your obligations at Carolwood dr?"

"I was in charge that the rules of the property were kept. I was part of the security outside."

"Your office was the security trailer so to speak?"

"Yes "

"And would you go inside the house?"

"Only if requested"

"Who belonged to "outside security"?"

"Michaels personal security team: Faheem, Amir, myself and closer to his passing: Isac Muhammad, Eric Muhammad, Derrick Muhammad"


PRELIM:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

When did you first met Dr. Murray?
Sometime after Jan 2009. Don't recall exactly. Met him at the property 100 N. Carolwood.

In the months April, May, June, did you see him there with (any) regularity?
Yes sir. Maybe five to six times a week.

When would he Dr. Murray typically arrive at the residence?
Typically, in the afternoons.

To you knowledge would he stay overnight?
Yes sir.

Going to the events of 24th & 25th of June, 2009. Did M have rehearsal at Staples Center?
(?)

Did you work as part of the advance team?
That's correct.

What time (did you) leave Carolwood?

Approximately about 6 pm.

I thought Michael had left at 4 pm to go to Staples Center

Who if anybody accompanied (you)?
Issiac (Mon???)

And what did you do?
What we usually did was walk through the entire venue, quick scan, make sure there wasn’t any one there was wasn’t supposed (to be). Get Staples security and that everything was secure and that his dressing room was secure.

(You) did the same advance work on the 24th?
Yes sir. (snip)
Was there to greet him and take him through. I took him from the Escalade caravan through the complex.

TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

"Did you know that CM was sleeping over from time to time?"

"yes"

"Do you know there were oxygen tanks?"

"Yes"

"Do you know they were stored in the trailer?"

"Yes"

"Do you recognize the sign that hung aboe the oxygen tanks in the security trailer?"

"Yes"

"Who put it up there?"

"I dont know"

"Was CM in possesion of the oxygen tanks?"

"Home security would fetch some from time to time. CM would come down, leave empty ones and grab full ones."

LAST REHEARSAL


PRELIM:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

What I remember is (that) he was happy in a very cheerful mood. That day I was assigned to the back stage. There was a ramp at the back stage (where the dancers came through). (He was not out in the arena where Jackson was rehearsing.)

So) he didn’t have much interaction with Michael throughout the rehearsals. His only interaction was through the “ball park.” (On the return trip home.) He then took Michael with the golf cart to the Escalades.

Still appeared to be in good spirits?
Yes sir. Once we got him back into his vehicle. Then his job was to select the route to drive back to Carolwood.

Arrived before Mr. Jackson?
Yes sir.

Did you see a vehicle that you recognized as Dr. Murry's?
(Yes.)

What time did you arrive?
It was after midnight sir.


He got there before Michael and Murray was already there. Which means, if Michael called Murray had to be before he gets home, not because he couldn't sleep.

(Was he) part of the crew to bring things into the house?
Yes sir.

He then checked into the security office beside the trailer.


TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

"You were part of the advanced team to go to SA on June 24?"

"Yes"

"What time did you leave?"

"After 5 pm"

"What did you do?"

"I drove to SC, got to the underground parking and walked to mr Jacksons Green Room"

"Green Room?"

"Yes his dressing quarters and what not. Checking everything is okay and checking the temperature"

"What temperature did mr Jackson prefere?"

"He likes warm settings"

"You were part of Venue security. Can you describe what that is?"

"I walk through the area. make sure there are no papparazzis or media not supposed to be there. I check with SC security and do what I can to ensure as smooth as possible arrival for MJ"

"What time did Michael Jackson arrive?"

"6.30-7.00 pm"

"Did you pick him up in his golf cart?"

"yes he exited his vehicle and I sped up to take him to the Green Room"

"And what mood was he in?"

"He was in very good spirits"

"After you dropped him off at the green room what did you do?"

"I parked the golf car so it was ready to pull out fast in case he needed to get out fast. I then set the perimeter and went in and out of our break room"

"What did you do during rehearsal?"

"That particular day I was in charge of the back stage perimeter"

"Where exactly?"

"There was a big monitor on stage. And there was like a big garage door to the stage through which he would enter. He would also exit through there and I would be there waiting in case he needed smt"

"he would also exit like that?"

"Yes"

"Did you see parts of the rehearsal and did you see his mood?"

"Certain songs I would peak out and watch him. He was doing very well for the most part. I remember the dancers saying that......"

OBJECTION .... SUSTAINED

"It usually went well?"

"Yes"

"After rehearsal?"

"I loaded him to his vehicle. I jumped to the advanced vehicle to secure the perimeter"

"What was his mood?"

"He was in a happy mood and in good spirits"

"Where did you go then?"

"I drove up to freeway 101, exited I think Sunset. I spotted a closure in the freeway and I called the primary vehicle to inform them so they wouldnt have to wait"

"Did you get to Carolwood dr before Michael?"

"Yes"

"Was

"What then?"

"I walked up to the house and made sure the front door was unlocked"

"And did he arrive?"

"Yes"

"And then?"

"I helped him open the door, take the gifts and flowers that the fans had given him and placed them in his house"

"Did you speak to him?"

"Briefly. He said goodnight and I said goodnight"

"And this was the last time you saw him?"

"The last time I saw him... yes"

"What did you do then?"

"I secured the front door and did my debriefing at the security trailer"

"Then?"

"House security would be set and the rest of us head on home"

"Were you scheduled to work the next day?"

"Yes"






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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 9:54 am

posted by The Fairy on Saturday, October 1st 2011

PRELIM:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

About 12:17 p.m. did you receive a phone call?
Yes, from Michael Amir.

On that day, do you recall what the phone number was?
(Witness reads number.)

12:17 received from Michael Amir Williams?
That’s correct.


(Walgren asks if he answered the call.)
No. I was sitting at my desk, and my phone was in my pocket. I reached into the pocked but by the time I pulled it out it had gone to voice mail. So I dialed back twice and he was able to answer. He proceeded to ask me (if I was) at the property. I said, "Yes." He said, "Get up (to the house) don't be so, (rough?) Go to the front." He said, "Walk don’t run."

Exhibit of the front of the house. DDA Walgren has him identify the security trailer and photo of the front door. Has him show on the exhibits the path he took from the trailer to the front door.

While you were walking path were you on the phone with Michael Williams?
Yes I am.

Are you continuing to converse with him?
Yes.

Another question.
Then he said, "Okay never mind jog to the front of the house."


TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

"What time were you scheduled to start working the next day?"

"After 10 am... 10:15 or 10:20"

"What did you do when you got there?"

"Same routine. Check the security trailer and then I sat around waiting for specific instructions"

"Did you review your telphone record for that day?"

"Yes"




"At 12:13 where were you?"

"At the security trailer"

"And 12:18 did you call Michael Amir?"

"Yes"

"Prior to that there were phone calls at

12:17 from Amir 21 sec

12:17 from Amir 20 sec

12:18 from you to Amir 6 sec

12:18 from you to Amir 5 sec?"


"Yes"

"Were there any conversations in these calls or just attempts?"

"Attempts"

"The call at 12:18 from you to Amir, where were you?"

"In the trailer"

"What did he say?"

"Where are you? (security trailer). I need you to get up. Dont cause too much commotion and head up to the house"

"And what did you do?"

"I headed up to the house. I exited to the front of the trailer, proceeded to the front door?"

"Front entrance of the house?"

"Yes"

"Did you talk to Amir about what you were doing?"

"Yes. He asked me if I was walking and he told me to jog so I speeded up"

"You ran?"

"I continued to go, but faster"


PRELIM:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

Did you go to the front door and attempt to open the door?
Yes sir.

Were you able to gain access?
Not immediately. The door was locked.

Photo of the front door.

Were you looking through the front door as you approached?
(Yes.)

When you first looked through (who did you see)?
I saw the nanny.



So, Murray was hunging around with the chef, Paris and the nanny, instead of being with the patient. Later I will compare to Kai statements.

Another photo exhibit. Front doors are glass doors. Witness describes the entrance way and entry areas in the house.

Paris was standing right next to Rose. Rosalyn and Paris were standing (here) in People's Exhibit six. Points to general area. They were to the left of the photo near the stair.

And that’s where Sister Rose, Kai Chase, the chef (were)?
Yes.

She's located further back from Paris and Rosalie as we look at the photo?
(Yes.)

Also saw Dr M?
Yes sir.

He was in this area? Walgren points at top of (photo) showing the wood railing of the landing area.

What was he doing at that time?
When I saw him he was leaning over, looking downward. (The witness demonstrates palms on a rail looking downstairs). I made eye contact with Rosalyn. She proceeded to the door and unlocked the door.

Still on the phone?
(Yes.) I told Michael Amir that I was in the house.


Okay now, runs up the stairs. (? Q or A)

What did you do?
I got to the stairs, skipped steps to get to the top as fast as possible.


So far he does not say that Michael Amir said to him to go upstairs, compare later with Amir statements.


TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

"I reached out to open the front doors. They were locked. I told Amir. Then the nanny came and unlocked the doors"

"You saw her coming to the front doors?"

"Yes"

"Did you se the people inside before you go in?"

"Yes"

"Who?"

"The nanny, Paris next to her. Conrad Murray on the top of the second floor"

"As you looked in you saw the nanny, Paris and CM.. and Rosalynn?"

"Yes. I had forgotten about her. On the left side of the photo was Rosalynn and Paris on the other side of her. There was a small table there"

"And CM?"

"He was on the 2nd floor, on the landing leaning over the railing"

"Leaning over? What did he do?"

"He had both hands on the rail, he was leaning forward, looking down.. oh Kai Chase was there also"

"Where was she?"

"In the area right toward I believe it is a grandfathers clock"

"Was she midway from the glass doors where you entered and to the doors on the opposite side of the hall leading to the garden?"

"Yes"

"Kai Chase was his chef?"

"Yes"

"The kitchen is in the far back area?"

"Yes"

"You saw CM and Rosalynn let you in?"

"I proceeded and I told Amir I was there. He told me to run up the stairs"


PRELIM:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

Arrived at top of stairway?
Yes sir.

At that point (?)?
When I got to top of the stairs, Dr. Murry was coming from hallway and he was walking in towards (???)

Witness goes over a diagram as to where people were. Goes over where Dr. Murray was.

What direction was he walking?
Walking in towards the room this way.

Did you walk into the room at that time?
I walked in as soon as (?).

Who enters foyer area first?
Dr. Murray.

As you were walking to that area, did you see at any times Michael's son Prince?
(He had reached the top of the stairs As I was coming up the stairs I saw Michael's son Prince coming from the opposite direction.at this point.)

Prince was walking in the opposite direction of you?
(Yes??)


So Prince was coming from the room, where his dad was supposelly dying alone, since Murray was in the hallway. Would a son go in opposite direction when people are running to save his father?

When you first saw Dr. Murray did he say anything to you?
He said "Alberto, come quick."

He was still on the phone with Michael Amir and then at that point hung up with Michael Amir.

Does the Exhibit in front of you, does that show the entry way in the foyer?
Witness shows on the exhibit where he was. As I entered the foyer, looked over to my right side, and walked toward the right side, 2nd floor bedroom (#2 on exhibit).



TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

"Did you see Prince?"

"When I was getting to the 2nd floor, he was walking in the opposite direction"

"Upstairs?"

"Yes"

"You proceeded quickly?"

"Yes"

"Did you see CM anywhere?"

"Yes I reached the top and he was coming from a hallway towards the bedroom"


SHOWING PHOTO OF THE TOP OF THE STAIRWAY AT THE RAILING WITH CHRISTMAS DECO ON THE RAILING
"Was he leaning over to the right of the picture?"

"Yes"


SHOWING DIAGRAM OF THE 2ND FLOOR

"Where was CM?"

"He was walking in this direction from the right side towards the left side of the landing"

"Instead of going left, if you continue to the retreat area and continue you get to the spiral staircase and the kitchen?"

"Yes"

"What room do you get to if you turn left?"

"Mr Jacksons room I believe"

"How many times have you been up there?"

"Two times to let his hairdresser up"

"This is mr Jacksons personal bedroom?"

"Yes"

"From the foyer on the 2nd floor you get to the bedroom number 2 which has like a walk in closet and a bathroom?"

"yes"

"What did CM say to you?"

"Alberto, come.. come quickly!"

"Did you terminate your phone call?"

"Yes"

"Where were you when you hung up?"

"Already in the landing"

"Who proceeded ... you or CM?"

"CM"

"Were you right behind him?"

"Yes"



PRELIM:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

Now when you first walked in what did you see Dr. Murray do?
He was on the right side of the bed and he was giving chest impressions to Michael. He was already giving him chest compressions.


Wow.. Murray was fast.. he was at the hallway and was already doing chest compressions on Michael!

As he looked in he (Dr. Murray) was on the right side of the bed. (Q? A?)

As you’re standing on the foyer looking into this bedroom, Dr. Murray was on the far side of the bed? Michael was on this (side) laying with his feet facing this (way)?
(Yes.)

Laying on the bed with his feed toward the direction in the area located (a) balcony? (His) head was customarily at the head of the bed?
Yes sir.

What observations did you make about Mr. Jackson?
He was flat on his back with his hands to the side of him in this manner (witness demonstrates) and his face was slightly to the left and his eyes were open and his mouth was open.

His head to the left, his head was slightly turned toward they foyer area?
That's correct.

What did you see Dr. Murray (do)?
He was standing over him. He was giving him chest compressions with one hand.

Witness is demonstrating with one hand up and down.

While this was going on M was on the bed?
Yes sir.

And while this was going on Paris and Prince entered the room?
As I observed Alberto (said?), "We need to get him to an hospital and get him to and ambulance!" Paris screamed, "Daddy!" And she started crying. Dr. Murray then said, "Get them out!! Don't let them see their father like this!" (It's interesting, the tone of voice the witness uses for each person when he's describing what they said.) I turned to children (and said something like) "Don’t worry children we'll take care of it." And then got (them to go) outside (the bedroom). I secured them outside and then I shut the door. (snip)

(I) then returned to the room where Michael Jackson was on the bed I asked what happened. Dr. Murray said, "He had a reaction! He had a reaction!" (The witness quotes Dr. Murray in an excited manner.) And that’s all he said at the time.


TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)



"Is this the view from the foyer area?"

"Yes"

"What happened next?"

"I got into the room and I turned right. I saw CM doing chest compressions"

"Where was mr Jackson?"

"On the bed"

"On which side?"

"Furthest away on the left side of the bed"

"What did you observe about his condition?"

"I remember seeing him on his back, hands extended out to the side with the palms up. eyes slightly open, mouth open. Face slightly towards the left"

"CM was doing compressions.. one hand or two hands?"

"One hand"

"His left hand?"

"Yes"

"Did he say he should go to hospital?"

"Yes ... "Alberto hurry we need to get him to hospital.. get an ambulance"

"What else?"

"Paris screamed "Daddy!"

"When she was screaming was she crying?"

"Yes"

"Was Michael in the same position?"

"Yes"

"Was Michael looking towards Paris?"

"Yes. CM told me .. Dont let them see their dad like this. I walked them to the stairs"

"Did you ask CM what had happened?"

"I asked him and he said "He has had a bad reaction. He has had a bad reaction"

"Where were you?"

"At the foot of the bed"

"It all happened very quickly?"

"Yes"

"Did you notice unusual medical device on his penis?"

"Yes. A plastic bag with a medical device on his penis"

"With a tube attached?"

"Yes"

"Did it get to a urin bag?"

"There was a bag on it"

"Do you know what a condom cathetar is?"

"I know now"

"Did you know at this time?"

"No"

"Eventually you called 911. Before that did you observe a heart monitor?"

"No"

"Do you know what a blood pressure ... is?"

"No"

(Explains)

"I didnt see it"

"And no heart monitor?"

"No. I remember a oxygen tank attached to mr Jackson"

"Where was it?"

"..."

"Did you see it or notice a bag?"

"I remember seeing the bag"
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 10:17 am

posted by The Fairy on Saturday, October 1st 2011

PRELIM:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

Conrad Murray asking Alberto Alvarez to move items

It is interesting that Albert said he "shut" the door, the question remains: Who opened the door for the paramedics to get in?

Did he instruct you on what do to do?
After he said, a bad reaction, I was froze. I was looking at the situation. I looked around at the whole scene and then he (Murray) grabbed (a?) handful of bottles, vials and he instructed me to put then into a bag. I looked toward my right and there was a chair and a plastic bag so I went for that bag and grabbed that and I had him put the medicine bottles in the bag.

From where did Conrad Murray grab these medicine bottles? There was a night stand, or little table in this area, here, (indicating on the exhibit) the side of the bed that Dr. Murray was on.

Adjacent to the bed at the head of the bed?
Yes sir.

What exactly then did you see Dr. Murray do?
I saw him grab the bottles (witness demonstrating with one hand). (He) grabbed those, stretched them out to me.

You held open the plastic bag?
Yes sir. He (Murray) then placed the bottles in the bag.

How were (you) able to tell they were bottles?
I saw them. He held them out and put them in the bag. (Witness demonstrates how he held the bag open and how Dr. Murray dropped the bottles in the bag.)

Now bottles are now in the bag. What did Dr Murry tell you to do that bag?
Put it (clear plastic bag) inside the brown bag and I looked towards that direction (Dr. Murray indicated) and saw a brown bag, that was left of a chair facing the bag. There was a brown bag and I dropped the bag.
You dropped the plastic bag into a brown bag?
Yes sir.


The IV bag:




I never heard of a bottle inside a I.V. bag. How that bottle got there???

TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

"What happened. You indicated the children to leave?"

"Yes"

"Did he instruct you to do something with some vials?"

"He gave me some vials and said "Here put them in a bag"

"Was he knealing down?"

"Yes on one knee"

"From where did he pick up the vials?"

"From the night stand"

"Wooden table next to the bed?"

"Yes"

"What did he say?"

"Put these in a bag". There was a plastic bag on top of a chair. I opened it and he put them. He pointed to a bag and said "Grab that and put that in the blue bag"

"Where was it?"

"It was on the right side of the IV stand"

"Hanging?"

"Yes"

"Did you take it off?"

"Yes I put it in the blue bag"

"Did you reach out and grab the bag?"

"No no.. oh yes.. The bag I grabbed was to my right down by the wooden chair"

"In front of the red chair?"

"yes"

"You were at the fornt of the bed and CM told you to take the vials and the stand. Were you at the right side, left side or in the middle?"

"Left side"

"Is that where you were?"

"Yes"

"Facing CM towards the head board?"

"Yes"

"You reached to the right to get the bag?"

"Yes"

"Following that he said "Grab that!"

"Was it a grocery type bag?"

"Yes"

"And into a different bag.. where was it?"

"On the floor"

"The grocery type bag was over there?"

"By the right side of the bed"

"He told you to get the bag from the IV stand?"

"Yes he said to get that bag and put it in the blue bag"

"The saline bag is that what you removed?"

"Yes, from the IV stand"

"Had you seen the blue bag and the brown bag before?"

"No sir"

"Why were you following the instructions?"

"I believed CM had the best intentions. I thought we were getting ready to get to the hospital"

"Was there anything unusual about the saline bag?"

"I was detaching it and had it at eye level and I could see a bottle inside the bag"

"When you remember the saline bag was it the type like the one in this pic?"




"Yes"

"Was the other bag still hanging on the IV stand?"

"Yes"

"Did he ask you to remove it?"

"Yes"

"Was there a bottle inside?"

"Yes"

"The one you remember?"

"It was at eye level..a bottle.. appeared to me as milky white substance"

"Does the photo represent the saline bag?"

"Yes"

"Is the drawing accurate?"

"Yes"

"And there was a white substance?"

"In the bottom of the bag"

"Bottle inside?"

"Yes"

"Clear saline bag. 100 ml Propofol bottle.




Is this the same bag?"

"Yes"

"Same bottle?"

"Yes"

"Peoples 28 would be reflectred where the saline bag was attahced not visible in Peoples 28?"

"Was what the condition of the sailing bag. Was it empty except from a little fluid?"


"Yes"

"No fingerprints on it?"

"No no"

"I AM ADMITTING AS EVIDENCE PEOPLES 30 SHOWING A SALINE BAG WITH A CUT IN THE BAG?

ANY OBJECTIONS?"

"Does this appear to be the bottle inside the saline bag?"


"Yes"

"Was it upside down?"

"Yes and slanted to your right"

"Generally from the point of the saline bag?"

"Yes"


SHOWING THE JURORS THE BOTTLE IN THE BAG

"After these events did CM ask you to call 911?"

"Yes"

"What did he say?"

"Call 911"


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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 10:45 am

posted by The Fairy on Saturday, October 1st 2011

TRIAL

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez

The 911 call:



"Phone records show you called 911 at 12:20 pm. Did you call 911?"

"Yes I did"

"During this short period of time where you ushered Prince and Paris out of the room, put the bag in the other bag, took the saline bag off the IV stand and then you called 911?"

"Yes "

"You realized it was an emergency situation?"

"Yes"

"You obeyed CMs orders?"

"Yes"

THE 911 CALL IS PLAYED IN COURT AND THE JUDGE IS TELLING THE JURORS, WHO ALSO RECEIVE A TRANSCRIPT OF THE CALL THAT THEY SHOULD USE THIS AS A GUIDE AND RELY ON THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION

"There were two calls?"

"Yes"

"This is difficult for you to hear?"

"Yes"

"Michael was on the bed at that time?"

"Yes"

"And CM was attempting CPR?"

"Yes"

"And was he moved from the bed to the floor?"

"Yes. CM was at the top of the bed and I was at the foot of the bed"

"And you moved him to the floor?"

"Yes"

"Did you see an IV tube attached to his body?"

"Yes sir. I saw a long clear plastictube connected to his leg"

"Did you see CM remove it?"

"Yes he just pulled it out of his leg"


The Pulse Oximeter


PRELIM

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez



TRIAL

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez

"Did you see CM attach a device to Michael Jacksons finger?"

"Yes"

"Describe where?"

"His hand was to his side"

"Conrad Murrays hand?"

"No, Michaels"

"CM clipped it onto his finger"

"Was there a brown box on the bed?"

"Yes"

"And he was clipping this device on his finger?"

"Yes"




"Do you recognize this? (Peoples exhibit 33)

Is this what he clipped on his finger?"

"Yes"

"Did you know what this was at the time?"

"Yes I saw it a few days earlier"

"Why?"

"A few days earlier CM came in and asked the security staff if we had AAA batteries and we gave them to CM"

"Did he say what it was?"

"Yes I asked him. He showed it to me and said it was a heart monitor"


PRELIM

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez



Faheem entering the room



Was there another entrance to the room?



TRIAL

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez

"What was CM doing?"

"He was giving mouth-to-mouth"

"What did he say?"

"A couple of things. "This is the first time I do mouth-to-mouth but I have to, he is my friend"

"And the CPR continued?"

"Yes"

"The paramedics came in and they moved him from the side of the bed to the foot of the bed?"

"Yes"


PRELIM

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez



First, how did Alberto new that he had to open the door for Michael Amir? I mean, how Alberto new Michael Amir had already get at the hourse?

Second, why did he have to watch the children? Wasn't there a nanny there? Rose?

And this brings me to the next question, Why did the nanny allow the children go upstair, if she knew something "wrong" was going on there?

TRIAL

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez

"I confirmed with them and then I went downstairs a couple of times"

"What did you do downstairs?"

"First to check the children and then to meet Amir"

"Were you passing the paramedics when they were bringing Michael down on the gurney?"

"I was on my way up and they came down"

"Where were you as they started coming down?"

"I was at the foot of the stairs"

"When they came outside with the gurney what were you doing?"

"Eh.. I believe I was.. I went towards the children and started talking to them so they wouldnt see their father come out like that"

"Were they, the children, Prince, Paris and Blanket.. were they in a vehicle at that time?"

"Yes sir"

"And were you kind of blocking the view of their father?"

"I was trying to distract them... trying to get their attention.. yes"

"And where you present then when the paramedics left Carolwood and proceeded to UCLA Ronald Reagan Medical Center?"

"Yes sir"

"And did you follow the paramedics to the hospital?"

"I did sir"

"Do you recall in which vehicle?"

"I was in one of the Escalades, sir"

"Do you recall with whom you drove to UCLA?"

"Derrick Muhammad, Faheem Muhammad and I believe Michael Amir was in the vehicle.. there was a... eh.. three... three securities plus myself"


UCLA

TRIAL

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez
"Were you present when the ambulance arrived at the emergency Bay?"

"Yes"

"Where you present when Michael was loaded off?"

"Yes. I was trying to protect his privacy from the papparazzis. I said to the papparazzis "please". I took off my coat I believe and tried to cover the view"

"Were you present when he was pronounced dead?"

"Yes"


PRELIM

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez


So Michael's bodyguards were there to secured the body and they thought they would "transport" the body??? Odd.. Why Michael's personal bodyguard (literally had to guard the body) would be responsible for the body after "death"?



Why was the dog so important in this hearing?

"After they had pronounced Michael dead did you speak to CM?"

"He said "Thank you for your help". I said we did our best"

"That is what you thought?"

"Yes"

"Do you have any reason to dislike CM or feel that anything was inappropriate at the time?"

"No"

"Has CM always treated you well?"

"Yes"

"Do you have any personal animosity, vendetta or anger against CM?"

"No"

"Did CM make any request?"

"First he said he was hungry- Amir was standing not too far from me so Murray asked him instead"

"And then you left UCLA?"

"Yes sir"

"After you heard the request did you see CM?"

"No I saw him sitting down and I heard him say "I wanted him to make it. I wanted him to make it"

"Did you load the vehicles and drive off?"

"Yes. I arranegd for Michael Jackson to be taken to the coroners office. We felt it was secure"

"Did you drive to UCLA?"

"Yes"

"Did you remain outside?"

"They allowed me inside the property after showing ID"

"Did you stand outside the house?"

"Yes"

"Have you seen the picture of you outside the house?"

"Yes"

"Then?"

"I drove the dog to Hayvenhurst"

"The dog Kenya?"

"Yes"
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 11:19 am

posted by MaryJo on Saturday, October 1st 2011

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Quote from mjmtc on Saturday, October 1st 2011 @ 7:14 AM.... originally from Nimue....

I never heard of a bottle inside a I.V. bag. How that bottle got there???
My comment: I posted this link in other thread but reposting screen shots becuz I think this explains the bottle in the bag. I think this theory will come out in court...we will see.

Murray didnt have infusion pump so he invented, homemade & rigged up an infusion pump for infusing I.V. propofol.


http://muzikfactorytwo.blogspot.com/2011/09/conrad-murray-murder-weapon.html











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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 11:46 am

posted by The Fairy on Saturday, October 1st 2011

CROSS EXAMINATION BY THE DEFENSE TEAM

TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

"When did you draw the pic (of the saline bag)?"

"When we were supposed to start the trial"

"After the preliminary hearing?"

"Yes"

"Is this the first one you drew on August 2009?"

"Yes sir"

"You drew this for the prosecutors?"

OBJECTION.. sustained

"Who asked you to draw this?"

"David Walgren"

"Is he a prosecutor?"

"Yes"

"This is from the last time we prepared for trial?"

"Yes"

"If it was drawn in 2009 it would have been two years earlier?"

"Yes"

"You revcall speaking to the police?"

"Yes"

"You didnt say there was a little nob coming from the bottom of the saline bag?"

"..."

"If you had said that and it isnt mentioned in the report then detective Myers would have fake notes?"

"Yes"

"You didnt say anything about a nob?"

"I dont recall"

"This bad has no milky substance?"

"Yes sir I see that"

"We also asked you at prelim to describe the vials. Do you remember?"

"I believe so"

"What color were the labels?"

"I dont know"

"Is this the bottle?"

"It appears to be"

"Is it possible you are cinfused about the time of events?"

"No"

"Do you recall when you spoke to LAPD you said you believed you were packing up to go to the hospital?"

"No"

"Isnt it likely it happened AFTER the paramedics came?"

"No"

"Your testimony is that after you hung up from the 911 call Faheem came in.. Did he come in while you were calling 911 or after?"

"After"

"Immediately after?"

"Yes"

"It was only a brief convo?"

"Yes"

"You were helping CM?"

"Yes"

"You did compressions.. he did mouth to mouth?"

"Only for a few minutes"

"Didnt you continue when they came in?"

"Yes I recall..."

"You wanted to do anything to help him?"

"Yes"

"You would agree you were busy.. ou did CPR for 2 minutes?"

"Yes"

"During that time you never touched any bags or vials or did anything else other than the CPR?"

"No"

"We can safely say that during that time your put away any vials"

"No"

"Prior to CPR you were on the 911 call?"

"Yes"

"All you did was talking to 911?"

"Yes"

"You werent packing any bags or vials?"

"No"


PRELIM:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)




So there is 1 minute missing in the 911 call. It could be a long time in emergency calls.

TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)



"The 911 call is at 12.20?"

"Yes"

"We see that Amir called at 12:17 pm and left a voicemail?"

"No it went to voicemail"

"Again at 12:17 and voicemail?"

"Yes"

"12:18 it was a 6 sec call?"

"Went to voicemail"

"12:18 ?"

"Went to voicemail"

"12:18 called again?"

"88 sec"

"One minute and 28 sec.. somewhere at 12:19?"

"12:18"

"You went to the front of the house and you were still on the phone. you went to the front door and upstairs and you were still talking to Amir and until you spoke to CM and hung up the phone; that took only 88 sec?"

"Thats what it says"

"When you received the call you had been at the security trailer and not doing anything stressful.. just checking mail and browsing the internet?"

"Yes"

"Would you say it was an alarming phone call?"

"Yes my senses woke up"

"What did Amir say?"

"Alberto where are you?// dont make too much as a destraction... sudden move... to alarm anyone.. go to the front of the house"

"Not the usual way to go in?"

"When we were asked to go in, we would go in, but not our usual way"

"Generally speaking it is unusual?"

"Not unusual.. but it doesnt happen all the time"

"You can go from the security trailer to the kitchen?"

"Yes"

"You went to the front?"

"Yes"

"He asked you to jog?"

"huh?.... to speed up yes"

"Yo go from sitting in the trailer nothing happening.. you start jogging.. your tension was high?"

"yes"

"You are instructed to go upstairs?"

"Not at this moment"

"The nanny opened and then Amir instructed you to go upstairs?"

"Yes"

"You see CM and you were on the phone?"

"Correct sir"

"You walked into the foyer .. landing.. bedroom and the scene was shocking?"

"Correct"

"You were stunned?"

"I was shocked"

"His mouth was open his eyes were open?"

"Yes"

"In that period of time you were frozen?"

"I didnt..."

"You were in shock?"

"Yes"

"You looked around the room?"

"Not at that time"

"You said "What happened?"

"No"

"CM said: "We need an ambulance"

"No he said: "We need to get him to the hospital"

"Did yo talk on your phone?"

"No I did not. I grabbed my phone in my pocket"

"You were at the door?"

"A little further in"

"You were interrupted by the children?"

"Yes"

"You didnt want them to see their father like that?"

"Yes"

"But you would not have done that by yourself?"

"I was concerned about Michael Jackson"

"You walked into the landing?"

"Yes"

"You didnt push them out?"

"Of course not"

"So you talked to them and comforted them?"

"Yes"

"You didnt yell at them.... you comforted them?"

"Yes"

"You closed the door or leaved it ajar?"

"yes"



"Where were you when CM said he had a bad reaction?"

"I was at the bottom of the bed"

"You looked around the room?"

"I glanced"

"You thought it was surreal like it wasnt happening?"

"I wasnt used to it"

"You didnt call 911?"

"My focus was with the kids"

"Did you see CM when you were out of the room?"

"I wasnt out of the room"

"And you still didnt call 911?"

"No I didnt"

"Then?"

"I turned back to the bed and asked CM what had happened"

"When you walked in, he said: "I have some bottles?"

"No he didnt say. He grabbed a handful and said: "Put these in a bag""

"You walked over to him?"

"No I reached over"

"You were at the foot of the bed?"

"I was closer to the bed"

"You went to the front of the bed to take the bottles?"

"I was less than a feet away"

"You walked inside to the room?"

"I was inside the room. I didnt exit the room"

"Was he trying to give it to him to... ?"

"To put inside the bag"

"Did yo look at the vials and see what they were?"

"They were vials to extract medication"

"Did they look like these vias here?"

"Smaller"

"And you put the bag into another bag?"

"Yes a brown bag"

"You had to walk over?"

"No just to turn around"

"Where were the bags?"

"Bags were on the floor"

"You didnt walk over.. you just bent over?"

"I just grabbed them"

"Then you said he pointed to the IV stand?"

"Yes"

"The IV stand was to the left of the bed?"

"Yes"

"Did you have to walk to the IV stand?"

"Yes a couple of steps"

"And you identified one IV bag?"

"Yes"

"When did you first see the pic of the IV bag?"

"I dont recall"

"2010? 2009? 2011?"

"2011 I believe"

"Where were you?"

"At mr..... office (police officer)"

"The IV bag looks just like the one you saw two years ago?"

"Yes"

"Does this look identical?"

"yes"

"These lines are drawn.. this bag doesnt have the lines?"

"Yes"

"Where was it?"

"It was on the middle hook of the IV stand. I grabbed it from the top and dropped it into the bag"

"Then you called 911?"

"Yes CM instructed me to call 911"

"... a cathetar removed from his leg?"

"An IV was pulled out of him"

"Before he grabbed his shoulders he clipped the pulse oximeter on his finger?"

"Yes"

"All that before he was gently put on the floor?"

"Yes"

"At what line in your testimony did you put him on the floor?"

"Okay lets see... page 3, line 19 and 21.. "we moved him..."

"I put the phone on my shoulder and lifted him.. I thought he was heavy"

"The first 911 call you made you didnt put him on the floor?"

"No not during that"

"Remember the time you talked to the police?"

"No sir I did not"


There is some confusion whether or not Alvarez said this or that to the police and if he had said he saw a box with a wire, not a needle and the defense says that detective Meyers has recorded the questioning.

The prosecution is saying Alvarez didnt tell detective Meyer and detective Smith that CM had asked him to hide evidence.

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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 12:02 pm

posted by The Fairy on Saturday, October 1st 2011

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Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

The security cameras



It seems the bodyguards didn't watch the security cameras at the house, at least Alberto. I can only guess that there wasn't any monitors on the security trailer and I wonder why.

Who did keep the watch on the security cameras? Where were the monitors for the security cameras footage?



Michael's bodyguards were not allowed to go inside the house. Why Michael Almir sent Alberto to the front door is they usually go by the kitchen door? Was it to put a show?



Interesting that Alberto says it was a machine attached to the body finger, but the paramedics didn't see any of it.

Back to Carolwood:


It seems there was no reason to go back to Carolwood other the walk the dog. No mention if Alberto talked to the cops on Carolwood, just at UCLA.

TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

"You went back to Carolwood Dr?"

"Yes"

"Do you know who is Elisa Fleak?"

"I dont recall"

"You never mentioned to the police about vials or any other things you were asked to put away?"

"No I did not"

"You can see the seline bag in the bag. The bag looks clear.. No connection to any other bag.. other IV tube?"

"No"

"Where did you hear about Propofol?"

"They had collected evidence and one of the detectives was walking by with a bag and talking about Propofol and that being what killed MJ"

"It was known to you?"

"I recalled the milky white substance"

"From what you heard from CNN?"

OBJECTION.. sustained


PRELIM:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

and now working for the family:



So, from June 2009 until February 2010, Alberto was not working for the Jacksons. They hired in on Feb 2010, after he had told the detectives he helped Murray to hide the prescriptions drugs (August 2009) and still the family hires him to fire him two months after that. The family knew he had hidden the vials and still hires him.... interesting...

TRIAL:

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez (Security)

"You said you were sad and unable to get a job since you have been on TV?"

"I havent been able to get a consistent job"

"What do you mean by consistent job?"

"Five days a week. I am an independent ...."

"Who do you work for?"

"I work for three companies"

"You worked for Michael Jackson in 2004?"

"Yes Bashir was head of security"

"For how long did you work?"

"For 6 months.. he didnt travel much"

Talking about working in Las Vegas... when security was needed and not needed.. 2007...

"After the death of Michael Jackson you worked for MJs family ?"


"From Februrary 2010 to secure the children"

"Did you seek this out?"

"I checked on the children from time to time"

"When did you start the discussion of coming to work for the Jackson family to secure the children?"

"Nov, Dec 2009"

"A few months after the conversation with the police?"

"Yes"

"How long did you work for them?"

"Not long.. two months"

"Why would CM think that you would conspire with him to hide evidence?"

OBJECTION.......SUSTAINED

"Other convos with CM?"

"In the security trailer with all the security staff there"

"You were in the trailer around 9-10?"

"Yes"

"And Amir called and before then you didnt know what was going on in the house?"

"I wouldnt be able to hear"


PRELIM

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez


So, the unemployed bodyguard went to London after Jun 25 event.I wonder to do what. The judge didn't allow him to answer this question from Murray's defense team. However it seems to be a big deal because during the re-crossed the defense team comes back to this question even the question from the prosecutors were about something else:



Hmmm... Alberto during his unemployement time went to London...hmmmm.

TRIAL

Witness statements

-Alberto Alvarez

REDIRECT BY THE PROSECUTION

"All these things were happening at the the same time?"

"Yes"

"You escorted the children to the door and closed the door?"

"yes"

"You did not first escort the children and then comfort the children?"

"No"

RECROSS BY THE DEFENSE

"Could you have performed all of this in half a minute?"

"Im very efficient"

"You had concern for the children and you were frozen?"

"Not so I couldnt take an instruction"

"You used the word frozen"

"Maybe the wrong word to use"
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 12:05 pm

posted by The Fairy on Tuesday, October 4th 2011

Parts 12 - 19

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New videos added Part 1 (videos 1 to 21)


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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 12:06 pm

posted by Nimue on Wednesday, October 5th 2011

This is a must. They did the video before Elisa Fleak testimony, and it is about Alberto Alvarez testimony, very good points they have.

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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 12:08 pm

posted by Nimue on Saturday, October 8th 2011

Michael Jackson’s Bodyguard’s Fingerprints Not on Saline Bag

The fingerprints of Michael Jackson’s bodyguard, Alberto Alvarez, are not on a saline bag that he testified to removing from an IV stand at Dr. Conrad Murray’s request, ABC News has learned.

Alvarez told jurors last week that Murray asked him to remove vials of propofol and a saline bag hanging on an IV stand during the time that they were waiting for first responders to arrive to Jackson’s rented mansion.

“I thought we were packing, getting ready to go to the hospital,” Alvarez testified on Sept. 29. “I recall that while I was detaching it [the saline bag] from the IV stand, the bag was at my eye level. I was able to notice that there was a bottle inside this bag.”

Alvarez’s fingerprints were not on any vials either, sources told ABC News.

In addition to the lack of Alvarez’s fingerprints on the saline bag and vials, ABC News has also learned from sources close to the investigation that Michael Jackson’s fingerprints were not on any of the vials of propofol found on Murray or in Jackson’s bedroom. The defense has claimed that Jackson himself took a lethal dose of propofol and another sedative without Murray’s knowledge on the day he died.


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/10/michael-jacksons-bodyguards-fingerprints-not-on-saline-bag/
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 12:09 pm

posted by Nimue on Sunday, October 16th 2011

Have you met the SUPERMAN?

No one is faster than him:



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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 12:12 pm

posted by MaryJo on Sunday, October 16th 2011

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Have you met the SUPERMAN?
Not only is he SUPERMAN, but hes INVISIBLE MAN as he wore NO gloves & he left NO fingerprints on the saline bag or anywhere @ the crime scene for that matter.

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No one is faster than him:
fast & invisible...

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Question: did they ever say whos in charge of maintaining propertys security cameras??
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 12:14 pm

posted by Nimue on Sunday, October 30th 2011

Alberto was already working for Michael on 2007. These pictures are from Michael's arrival to US at 2007.





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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 12:15 pm

posted by Nimue on Thursday, November 24th 2011

I found this video at MJHD.net, credits to them. I've never heard the first part of this 911 call, before 0:35/0:40. Did you notice this?


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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 12:18 pm

posted by Nimue on Sunday, September 30th 2012

Fairy, it is not about the Hearing it is about Alberto, but the search engine didn't give me too many options for it, please move the post if you find a better thread. Thanks.

1D saved me: One Direction sign up Michael Jackson's former bodyguard

Alberto Alvarez has a new lease of life after being left penniless when the Jackson family sacked him after his evidence helped convict Conrad Murray, the People can reveal

One Direction have hired Michael Jackson’s faithful ­bodyguard ­after he was given the boot by the dead star’s relatives.

Alberto Alvarez, 36, tried ­desperately to save Jackson and called an ambulance as the star’s life ebbed away.

He could have made a fortune from his story but saved it for a court of law.

Michael’s family relied on the minder’s evidence to convict Dr Conrad Murray of ­involuntary ­manslaughter.

But after the fuss over last November’s trial had died down, they sacked Alberto. And despite all his loyalty the married dad of two was left penniless.


My comment: this is not true. Alberto was fired about May 2010, not after the trial. Well, it is Mirror tabloid, but they are trying to paint the family as bad as they can.


Now he is overjoyed that the world’s biggest boyband have saved him. Alberto will join them on the American leg of their 2013 world tour next June.

He said: “I’m really excited. They’re a great group of young men and they have great ­talent. I am proud to work for them. Working for the boys has ­pulled me through a ­terrible time. It really helped me cope with what ­happened three years ago when Michael died.

“I’ve been through the mill but I am coming out the other side.

“I just wanted to get the trial over. Since then I have felt a lot better.

“The events of three years ago are less heavy on my mind. They won’t ever go away but I do feel ­better. I started ­working as a ­bodyguard again last year.

“And ­working for One Direction – the ­biggest boyband in the world – is so ­exciting. I did some work for them in California last year and they liked me.

“Now every time they are here I work with them. The other week I was with Zayn Malik at the Video Music Awards in Los Angeles.

“A few months back I spent time with Louis Tomlinson and his girlfriend.

“They were talking about me ­accompanying them on their big tour.”


My comment: This is a surprise, I never saw Alberto taking that much to the media. It does not sound right for a bodyguard talking so much about someone he will work.

Their new single Live While We’re Young, released today, is already No1 in 40 countries thanks to early orders.

Bosses realised their security needed to be beefed up. The lads were mobbed by 15,000 screaming girls when they appeared outside New York’s Rockefeller Center in April.

US guards invariably have a ­licence to carry a gun.

A One Direction insider said: “American ­bodyguards have been called in because fans can be very full on there. Mothers actually offer the boys large sums of money to sleep with their ­teenage daughters. It is ridiculous.”

Two months after 50-year-old Jackson died Alberto went to the police and told them what he had witnessed.

He turned down up to half a million pounds to tell his story on TV, saying he wanted it to come out in court.

At first the Jacksons vowed to keep him on the payroll to protect children Prince, 15, Paris, 14, and Blanket, 10.

But he was fired nine months later amid claims that he had failed to disclose a drink-driving arrest and a domestic ­violence complaint.

Alberto’s friends say he was devastated by the loss of the job he loved. He ­struggled financially because he had been forced to hire a lawyer to guide him through the Murray trial.

And he told how he was racked with guilt over Jackson’s death.

He said: “I’ve had sleepless nights. I play over in my mind what I could have done differently. I hoped people would ­understand that I did everything in my ­powers for Michael.”


http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/one-direction-sign-up-michael-1351336
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 12:19 pm

posted by ElkeHassell on Sunday, September 30th 2012

And he told how he was racked with guilt over Jackson’s death.

He said: “I’ve had sleepless nights. I play over in my mind what I could have done differently. I hoped people would ­understand that I did everything in my ­powers for Michael.”

Now how does this all fit in with everything!
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 12:21 pm

posted by GailShaw on Friday, November 9th 2012


TMZ TV
11/8/2012 12:02 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF
One Direction
MJ's Ex-Bodyguard
Has Our Backs
TMZ TV

http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_j4xxoi0z/

One Direction and Michael Jackson now have something in common -- a bodyguard ... in fact, the same one who was with MJ the day he died. Hope he has other references.

Check out TMZ on TV -- click here to see your local listings!


http://www.tmz.com/2012/11/08/one-direction-michael-jackson-tmz-tv/#ixzz2Bm4v58gT

Just some news on Alberto Alvarez...

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PostSubject: Re: Michael Amir Williams, Kai Chase, Faheem Muhammad, Alberto Alvarez   6th October 2013, 12:24 pm

posted by mjmtc on Saturday, December 8th 2012

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http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_j4xxoi0z/

One Direction and Michael Jackson now have something in common -- a bodyguard ... in fact, the same one who was with MJ the day he died. Hope he has other references.

Just some news on Alberto Alvarez...
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Well already back in March we heard that One Direction has a HUGE crowd of bodyguards... twenty each (!!!).

I wonder which role Alvarez gets to play among one hundred bodyguards...

One Direction to have 20 bodyguards EACH for their Dallas performance... and it only lasts 45 minutes

By Alanah Eriksen

PUBLISHED: 23:43 GMT, 24 March 2012 | UPDATED: 09:03 GMT, 26 March 2012

They're arguably the biggest boyband at the moment, so they fans are obviously bound to be hyped up.

But One Direction's management could be being a little over-protective on their U.S. tour.

The boys will reportedly have 20 bodyguards each during their stay in Dallas.


Going places: One Direction reportedly have 20 bodyguards each to protect them at their Dallas gig

Sources told website TMZ that a security team of 100 had been assigned to protect the group for their performance in Dallas which is only supposed to last 45 minutes.

They are scheduled to play just four songs for a crowd of about 7,000 at the Dr Pepper Ballpark.
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