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PostSubject: The beginning   15th September 2013, 1:00 pm

Posted by mjmtc on Sunday, January 23rd 2011 @ 7:06 PM


This all started way back with this article

Katherine Jackson Sues AEG Over Michael's Death



9/15/2010 4:10 PM PDT by TMZ Staff


In the suit, Katherine claims AEG's contract with Michael "created a legal duty for AEG to act reasonably toward the physical well-being of Michael Jackson."

In the document, Katherine also blames AEG for hiring Dr. Murray without a proper background check -- claiming, "AEG did not provide a doctor who was truly looking out for Jackson's well-being and did not provide equipment."

The suit also alleges AEG caused emotional distress to Michael's son Prince because he witnessed Michael suffering and dying, and "he was put in a position as bystander to these tragic events."

Kenny Ortega, who produced the planned London concerts for Michael, is also named as a defendant.

The attorney who filed the suit, Brian J. Panish, released a statement saying, "The purpose of this lawsuit is to prove to the world the truth about what happened to Michael Jackson, once and for all."

Story developing...

Read more and link to documents: http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/15/michael-jackson-katherine-jackson-aeg-live-death-civil-lawsuit-breach-of-contract/#ixzz2ezeU173L
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PostSubject: Who is named in the lawsuit?   15th September 2013, 1:50 pm

posted by Nimue on Sunday, January 23rd 2011 @ 7:32 PM



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PostSubject: Kenny Ortega dropped from lawsuit   15th September 2013, 2:07 pm

posted by Nimue on Tuesday, February 1st 2011 @ 11:43 PM

MJ Producer Dropped From Wrongful Death Suit


2/1/2011 10:13 AM PST by TMZ Staff  

Michael Jackson's producer of the "This Is It" tour just got a break in the wrongful death lawsuit filed by Katherine Jackson -- he's been dropped as a defendant ... TMZ has learned.

Michael Jackson Wrongful Death Suit
Kenny Ortega was sued by Katherine, who claimed he was part of AEG's alleged plan to give Michael anything he needed in order for him to perform.

Katherine's lawyer, Kevin Boyle, tells TMZ, "Based on recently discovered information, the Jackson family has determined that Mr. Ortega should not be a defendant," adding, "The Jackson Family apologizes for any discomfort or inconvenience this may have caused Mr. Ortega."

It's always a discomfort to be sued for wrongful death.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/01/kenny-ortega-michael-jackson-aeg-wrongful-death-lawsuit-katherine-jackson-dismissed-jackson-family/

Interesting pic of Michael, I never saw TMZ using it beore.

"Based on recently discovered information - I wonder what that could be.

Is it telling us that the family didn't know about Kenny involvement in the hoax or that Kenny is not part of it?

Looking at the pic, it seems Michael is talking to Kenny and he is listening to Michael
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PostSubject: Why is Kenny Ortega out and what does "Wrongful Death Lawsuit mean"?   15th September 2013, 2:15 pm

I think that it was planned to be this way from the start; that they would include Kenny and later exclude him. Kenny testified that he had sent Michael home because he was tired and that Randy Philips and Conrad Murray got upset with Kenny because of it. When you think AEG you think Randy Philips and Kenny Ortega, now we are left with Entertainment Group, Inc., Randy Philips, Paul Gongaware and Timothy Leiweke who together with Kenny were described as "agents of and joint ventures of one another and are referred to collectively throughout this complaint as AEG".

So it seems Kenny is outside the agent of AEG description. Are they going to present evidence in court that shows that the music industry was involved directly with Conrad Murray? That the music industry wanted MJ to rehearse even though he was tired and ill? Kenny said he told him to go home and if AEG is still being sued they are suddenly standing on the same side like Conrad Murray which also matches the things said at the prelim that Murray agreed with Randy Philips.


"The Jackson family apologizes for any discomfort..."

and TMZ adds:

"It's always a discomfort to be sued for wrongful death"..... ehhhh... yes it must be but why is TMZ stressing this matter?

What does "wrongful death" mean?

The standard of proof in the United States is typically preponderance of the evidence as opposed to clear and convincing or beyond a reasonable doubt. In Australia and the United Kingdom, it is 'on the balance of probabilities'. For this reason it is often easier for a family to seek retribution against someone who kills a family member through tort than a criminal prosecution. However, the two actions are not mutually exclusive; a person may be prosecuted criminally for causing a person's death (whether in the form of murder, manslaughter, criminally negligent homicide, or some other theory) and that person can also be sued civilly in a wrongful death action (as in the O. J. Simpson murder case). Wrongful death is also the only recourse available when a company, not an individual, causes the death of a person; for example, historically, families have tried (both successfully and unsuccessfully) to sue tobacco companies for wrongful deaths of their customers.

The last part is very interesting indeed:

Wrongful death is also the only recourse available when a company, not an individual, causes the death of a person

Is this a hint that the whole company actually should be charged with willfully planning MJs death, but since a company (and whatever group of people that may include) can not be charged, the wrongful death lawsuit is the only way to get to the bad guys? Will there be more of these lawsuits?
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PostSubject: Re: The beginning   15th September 2013, 2:22 pm

posted by MaryJo on Thursday, February 3rd 2011 @ 12:19 AM


Jackson family lawsuit can proceed against AEG


By Alex Dobuzinskis
LOS ANGELES | Wed Feb 2, 2011 5:46pm EST

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A judge on Wednesday ruled the wrongful death lawsuit filed by Michael Jackson's mother can proceed against concert promoter AEG Live, setting up a legal showdown between Katherine Jackson and the company she blames for the "Thriller" singer's demise.

The lawsuit accuses AEG of being responsible for medical decisions made by Jackson's physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, whose care was funded by the company.

Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter in connection with Jackson's June 25, 2009, death, age 50, from an overdose of the powerful anesthetic propofol which the doctor gave as a sleep aid and other sedatives and painkillers.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos on Wednesday denied a motion by AEG, a subsidiary of the Anschutz Entertainment Group, to dismiss Katherine Jackson's case against the company.

But the judge said lawyers for the singer's 80 year-old mother would need to show evidence of fraud, negligent infliction of emotional distress and civil conspiracy.

Palazuelos said she had doubts about civil conspiracy, because there were no details in the lawsuit saying AEG and Murray had an agreement to break the law, in providing medical care to Jackson.

"If the object was to get him to rehearsals, I don't see that as a wrongful or illegal act," she said.

Jackson was preparing for his "This Is It" series of 50 comeback concerts in London when he died, and Murray was going to accompany him to Britain for the shows.

AEG attorney Marvin Putnam, in arguments before the judge, said the company could not have realized beforehand that Murray's medical decisions would lead to Jackson's death.

"It's not foreseeable that Michael Jackson or anyone else was going to die in their own home of propofol," Putnam said.

During a preliminary hearing last month in the criminal case against Murray, witnesses testified that propofol is administered in surgery and never recommended for home use.

The judge in that separate case found there was sufficient evidence to try Murray, and he wondered out loud why the doctor would have used propofol on Jackson as a sleep aid.

Murray's involuntary manslaughter trial is scheduled to begin on March 28. He faces a maximum of four years in prison.

Katherine Jackson's wrongful death lawsuit was filed in September and includes the singer's three children as co-plaintiffs.

Kenny Ortega, a choreographer who was directing Jackson's rehearsals, was originally named as a defendant. But Katherine Jackson's attorneys recently dropped him from the suit, citing new information.

In court papers, AEG's attorneys said the company "did not choose or hire Dr. Murray" and merely conducted negotiations aimed at "retaining him as an independent contractor."

The next hearing in Katherine Jackson's civil case is scheduled for March 22.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/02/us-michaeljackson-idUSTRE7118ZF20110202
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PostSubject: MsFlyingFairy vid about the contents of the lawsuit   15th September 2013, 2:25 pm

posted by mjmtc on Sunday, February 20th 2011 @ 6:32 PM

The next part in my series of vids has solely to do with the lawsuit against AEG and whether Murray is the scapegoat.

Therefore I am also posting it in this thread


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PostSubject: Re: The beginning   15th September 2013, 2:27 pm

posted by Nimue on Sunday, February 20th 2011 @ 7:36 PM


Wow.. great video Fairy.

I saw and I read a lot about the use of Gilda in TII, but I never saw a connection in this way.

Nice job.
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PostSubject: Michael Jackson's mom won't pursue conspiracy   15th September 2013, 2:32 pm

posted by Shadow1026 on Saturday, February 26th 2011 @ 3:16 PM
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I'm not sure if someone has posted this already. Forgive me if they have. But, the article is interesting along with Jermaine's recent quote reg: this article below.

Michael Jackson's mom won't pursue conspiracy, distress allegations


The Canadian PressBy The Associated Press | The Canadian Press – Thu, 24 Feb, 2011 4:48 PM EST

LOS ANGELES, Calif. - Attorneys for Michael Jackson's mother have told a judge they will not pursue a civil conspiracy claim in a wrongful death lawsuit against the organizers of the pop singer's planned series of comeback concerts.

A judge previously ruled that Katherine Jackson could not pursue conspiracy and infliction of emotional distress claims against AEG Live without more information.

Attorneys for Katherine Jackson indicated their intentions in a brief filed Wednesday in Los Angeles. The judge rejected AEG's request to dismiss the lawsuit.

Katherine Jackson sued AEG Live in September, claiming the concert giant failed to properly supervise the doctor who later pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in her son's death and pushed him through a grueling rehearsal schedule.

AEG has denied any wrongdoing.

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PostSubject: MsFlyingFairy vid about the contents of the lawsuit   15th September 2013, 2:34 pm

posted by mjmtc on Saturday, February 26th 2011 @ 3:20 PM

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PostSubject: Judge Mulls Consolidation of MJ Civil Suits   15th September 2013, 2:36 pm

posted by mjmtc on Wednesday, April 27th 2011 @ 11:41 PM

Judge Mulls Consolidation of MJ Civil Suits

(CNS) Posted Wednesday April 27, 2011 – 11:00am

A judge considering Katherine Jackson's negligence lawsuit against AEG Live today said that she wants more time to decide if it should be consolidated with one filed by the late King of Pop's father.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos said she would study the issue. Katherine Jackson's estranged husband, Joe, is suing Dr. Conrad Murray, alleging wrongful death in Michael Jackson's June 25, 2009, death due to complications from an overdose of propofol.

"Maybe it will stay here,' the judge said, "maybe it won't.'

Palazuelos said she wants to talk to presiding Judge Carolyn Kuhl before making a final decision.

Lawyers for Katherine Jackson and AEG Live say they do not want the case linked in any way with a Joe Jackson's case against Murray. Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter in the singer's death.

Joe Jackson's case -- now before Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Johnson -- alleges Murray was negligent in administering propofol to Jackson and that he did not tell paramedics that he gave the singer the drug. Johnson this week denied a motion by Murray's attorneys to dismiss the case on grounds it was not filed on time.

The Jackson family patriarch's lawyer, Brian Oxman, filed a "notice of related cases' with Palazuelos. Oxman said he is agreeable to either Palazuelos or Johnson hearing the case.

Katherine Jackson's suit alleges AEG Live is responsible for the medical decisions made by Murray, who has pleaded not guilty to the involuntary manslaughter charge.

Because Katherine Jackson's is the older of the two lawsuits, Superior Court rules say Palazuelos is the one who makes the decision whether to have both of them before her.

Lawyers for AEG Live say the cases have nothing to do with each other.

"Whereas the vast majority of the factual allegations in Joseph Jackson's complaint concern the day of Michael Jackson's death and subsequent events, the allegations in Katherine Jackson's complaint almost entirely concern events prior to Michael Jackson's death,' the AEG Live court papers state.

Katherine Jackson's lawyers concur, saying in their court papers that her case has "the distinct factual and legal issues of AEG's direct negligence and whether or not it employed Dr. Conrad Murray.'
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PostSubject: Re: The beginning   15th September 2013, 2:38 pm

posted by mjmtc on Wednesday, May 4th 2011 @ 5:29 PM


Katherine Jackson To Manage Wrongful Death Case Filed By Her Husband Joe (CNS)


Posted Tuesday May 3, 2011 – 10:25am

A judge presiding over Katherine Jackson's negligence lawsuit against AEG Live said today she will also manage a case filed by the late King of Pop's father.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos's ruling on Monday does not consolidate the cases into one, but does mean that Joe Jackson's case will no longer be heard by a separate judge.

Joe Jackson is suing Dr. Conrad Murray, alleging wrongful death in Michael Jackson's June 25, 2009, death due to complications from an overdose of propofol. Katherine Jackson's suit alleges AEG Live is responsible for the medical decisions made by Murray.

Lawyers for Katherine Jackson and AEG Live said they preferred not having the case linked with the other lawsuit. Joe Jackson's case -- which until now was before Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Johnson -- alleges Murray was negligent in administering propofol to Jackson and that he did not tell paramedics that he gave the singer the drug.

Murray is also criminally charged with involuntary manslaughter in the singer's death and his trial was delayed this week from May 9 until September.

The issue of whether the Jackson lawsuits should be assigned to one judge came about when the Jackson family patriarch's lawyer, Brian Oxman, filed a "notice of related cases" with Palazuelos.

Oxman said he was agreeable to either Palazuelos or Johnson hearing the case. Because Katherine Jackson's is the older of the two lawsuits, Superior Court rules stated that Palazuelos should make the decision whether to have both of them before her.

Palazuelos heard arguments last Wednesday and took the matter under submission. Lawyers for AEG Live said the cases have nothing to do with each other. "Whereas the vast majority of the factual allegations in Joseph Jackson's complaint concern the day of Michael Jackson's death and subsequent events, the allegations in Katherine Jackson's complaint almost entirely concern events prior to Michael Jackson's death," the AEG Live court papers stated.

Katherine Jackson's lawyers concurred, saying in their court papers that her case has "the distinct factual and legal issues of AEG's direct negligence and whether or not it employed Dr. Conrad Murray."
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PostSubject: Lawsuit could be impacted by doctor’s criminal trial   15th September 2013, 2:40 pm

posted by mjmtc on Thursday, June 2nd 2011 @ 9:19 AM


Michael Jackson death:

Lawsuit could be impacted by doctor’s criminal trial


By Tammy McCoy, on June 1st, 2011 By City News Service

The outcome of the involuntary manslaughter case against Michael Jackson’s personal physician could affect the length of the trial of a related civil lawsuit next year, an attorney for the late singer’s mother told a judge Wednesday.

Lawyer Kevin Boyle, during a hearing before Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos, predicted Katherine Jackson’s civil case against AEG Live would take about four weeks to try, not including what is expected to be a lengthy jury selection process.

The company promoted a series of sold-out London concerts for which Jackson was rehearsing in Los Angeles at the time of his death.

However, Boyle said that if Dr. Conrad Murray, who was with the entertainer when he died, is convicted, the jury in the civil case will not have to deal with the negligence issues in the case and can focus squarely on whether AEG Live was Murray’s employer.

AEG Live attorneys dispute that their client employed Murray, whose criminal case trial was recently rescheduled for September. “I think the (civil) trial would be considerably shorter,” Boyle said after the hearing.

However, AEG Live attorney Marvin Putnam said he was not sure a conviction in Murray’s criminal case would have the impact Boyle predicts. He also said the civil case could take even longer to try than Boyle’s estimate.

Palazuelos scheduled the civil suit trial for Sept. 10, 2012. She said she also will keep the case before her despite the possibility it will last several weeks and noted she recently tried another lengthy case.

“If I can try try an asbestos case in 14 to 21 days, there’s no reason I can’t try your case,” the judge told the attorneys. The lawsuit was filed last September by Katherine Jackson on behalf of herself and her son’s three children, Michael Jr., Paris-Michael Katherine and Prince Michael.

It alleges AEG Live is responsible for the medical decisions made by Murray, who has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in Jackson’s death. The 50-year-old singer died June 25, 2009, of acute propofol intoxication.

Palazuelos also is managing a separate suit filed against Murray by the singer’s father, Joe Jackson, that alleges wrongful death. The case was not part of today’s hearing.

A Nov. 2 status conference is scheduled in that suit.

http://www.swrnn.com/2011/06/01/michael-jackson-death-lawsuit-could-be-impacted-by-doctors-criminal-trial/

Now a few things are interesting here. Previously we were told that Katherine's lawsuit against AEG could NOT be dealt with before the trial against Murray was over and the same has been said about Joe's lawsuit against Murray. Civil lawsuits are always dealt with after the people in questioned has stood trial.

The way it looks now is:

September 8, 2011: Conrad Murray trial.

September 10, 2012: Katherine's civil lawsuit against AEG (so they expect Murray's trial to take one year?)

And of course there is Joe's lawsuit, which is not directly against AEG, but against Murray.

Another interesting point is this:

However, Boyle said that if Dr. Conrad Murray, who was with the entertainer when he died, is convicted, the jury in the civil case will not have to deal with the negligence issues in the case and can focus squarely on whether AEG Live was Murray’s employer.

It alleges AEG Live is responsible for the medical decisions made by Murray, who has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in Jackson’s death.

This would mean IF Murray is convicted.. then we can focus on who hired him... and then AEG can get in trouble for real.


The way I see it this lawsuit is very important as it offers the opportunity to hold AEG responsible IF it can be proven that they hired Murray and told him to keep giving Michael drugs. This is the only way AEG can stand trial and once they can hold AEG responsible, they can also put individuals from AEG and hopefully ppl behind AEG on trial.

I dealt with this also in my vids
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PostSubject: Michael Jackson Lawyer Brian Oxman Recommended For Suspension by State Bar   15th September 2013, 2:43 pm

posted by mjmtc on Thursday, June 2nd 2011 @ 10:27 AM

Another Roger Friedman-Fox News-Murdoch non MJ friendly article, but disregarding the comments it is interesting what is going on


Michael Jackson Lawyer Brian Oxman Recommended For Suspension by State Bar



06/01/11 9:22am Roger Friedman 5

For the the third time in his career, Brian Oxman is getting suspended from practicing law. Oxman, a constant presence on TV who identifies himself as the “Jackson family lawyer,” isn’t the only one in trouble this time. So is his wife, Maureen Jaroscak, who is also a lawyer in California. In a decision filed by the State Bar of California on March 3, 2011, the agency has recommended that Oxman be suspended for two years, with a third year of suspension stayed based on Oxman proving that he’s mended his ways.

In addition to reporting to the Bar Association four times a year during the three years, Oxman must also “must attend and satisfactorily complete the State Bar’s Ethics School and State Bar’s Client Trust Accounting School and provide satisfactory proof of such completion to the State Bar’s Office of Probation.” Jaroscak has been similarly recommended for punishment. And the couple must take and pass the Multi State Professional Responsibility Examination during their suspensions.

What happened? Oxman’s problems stem from 2004, when he represented a woman named Raquel Axelrod in her divorce from husband John Larson. It’s a complicated tale, but ended with Oxman being ordered by a bankruptcy court to pay Larson–the ex husband of Oxman’s client–a little over $5,000 in sanctions. Oxman simply failed to do so, even though he entered into several settlement agreements. Oxman also never reported the sanction to the Bar Association, and never paid it.

At the same time, Oxman and Jaroscak were involved in an eight year long scheme, according to the Star Bar of California’s filing, to hijack another client’s estate worth more than $500,000. This story, separate from the Axelrod/Larson one, shows Jaroscak completely ignoring rulings from the State Supreme Court and the California Bar as she willfully kept money from brother and sister Gerald and Sarah Quattrrochi after their parents died.

In both cases, the Star Bar decision found that the Oxmans “lacked candor”–which is a nice way of saying they lied about everything.

Interestingly, all of this was going on as Oxman grandstanded in Michael Jackson’s child molestation and conspiracy case, slept in court and snored loudly, and was eventually fired from the case by Jackson chief legal counsel, Thomas Mesereau. Mesereau, busy with keeping Jackson out of jail–which he did–had no idea all this was going on simultaneously.

And that’s not all: the State Bar also found that Oxman and Jaroscak co-mingled their funds with those of their clients, used their Client Trust Account to hide money from their own many creditors, and basically lied about everything else in their professional lives including fees they received for teaching at UC Irvine. Oxman was found guilty of four counts of misconduct, his wife five counts. Why they weren’t barred from ever practicing law again is a mystery considering this is Oxman’s third suspension. The State Bar also accused Jaroscak of “moral turpitude.” (That is very ugly; you rarely hear that expression anymore. It’s severe.)

But the court said in its decision that since Oxman and Jaroscak had admitted to some of their wrong doing and helped with the investigation, they would receive leniency. Oxman should also receive credit, the court said, for donating his time to the Plotkin Bail Bond school in Norwalk, California. I wish the court had done a little homework: back in 2005, when Michael Jackson was on trial, Oxman was in business with Dorry Plotkin regarding Michael Jackson’s bail and loans against his parents’ home in Encino, California. Oxman was busy making money, not donating it, at the time. He and Plotkin are childhood buddies.

Maybe now media bookers will finally understand who Oxman is. Maybe the Jackson family will finally get it, too. Recently, Oxman represented Joseph Jackson in his futile attempts to sue AEG Live and others for Michael’s death. Their lawsuits were thrown out in the end.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson Lawyer Brian Oxman Recommended For Suspension by State Bar   15th September 2013, 2:47 pm

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Wow.. September 2012????

Well, if Michael's return is bound to AEG, we cannot expect any return before September 2012.

I also wonder why September 10 (not 9/11..hehe) 2012

About Oxman I knew already, I think we have a similar article published in a another thread with the charges, also at HTWF thread MJ estate calls attention to the charges on Oxman. It seems he does a lot of things wrong..
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PostSubject: Judge Schedules Katherine Jackson’s AEG Lawsuit for September 2012   15th September 2013, 2:50 pm

posted by MaryJo Thursday, June 2nd 2011 @ 7:25 PM


http://www.mjnewsalerts.com/2011/06/02/judge-schedules-katherine-jacksons-aeg-lawsuit-for-september-2012/

Judge Schedules Katherine Jackson’s AEG Lawsuit for September 2012


One of the civil cases relating to the death of Michael Jackson will not be heard in court until September 2012, the judge overseeing the case decided yesterday. By that time the much delayed criminal case against Doctor Conrad Murray should have reached its conclusion, which could have an impact on this civil suit.

Katherine Jackson is suing live music giant AEG Live – promoters of the Michael Jackson ‘This Is It’ residency at the O2 arena in London – because they paid the fees of Murray, the medic accused of causing MJ’s death by negligently administering the drug propofol.

Mrs Jackson says that as Murray was hired by AEG to be Michael’s personal medic while he worked on ‘This Is It’ they should be held responsible for his death. There were also allegations that Murray had been told by AEG bosses to do “whatever it takes” to ensure MJ was able to attend rehearsals for his London show, the implication being that meant administrating unnecessary amounts of medication.

AEG Live’s attorney Marvin Putnam played down the significance of the criminal trial on this civil case. While, obviously, an acquittal of Murray would be helpful to AEG, Putnam would argue that the company’s legal arguments in the civil proceedings – that Murray was chosen by and reported to Michael Jackson directly, that AEG just picked up the bills, and therefore wasn’t responsible for his actions – are strong whatever happens in the Conrad Murray trial this Autumn.
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PostSubject: Michael Jackson family's civil trial blames AEG in singer's death   15th September 2013, 2:53 pm

Posted by Elke Hassell Wednesday, November 9th 2011 @ 9:14 AM

Michael Jackson family's civil trial blames AEG in singer's death

Mother and children allege that the entertainment giant heartlessly pressured the star to deliver a comeback tour he was in no shape to take on.

It was AEG Live's substantial resources that made the deal attractive to the financially troubled Jackson in the first place, and it is the dynamic between the rich company and the cash-strapped performer that is at the heart of the suit. The company advanced Jackson money against future concert earnings to cover every aspect of his life and had the right to seize his assets if he failed to perform at 50 London shows.

In court papers, Katherine Jackson's lawyers have said the relationship created a legal duty on the part of AEG "to treat him safely and to not put him in harm's way." They said AEG breached those duties by contracting with Murray, who they allege went along with their only interest: ensuring that Jackson could perform.

During the criminal trial, AEG officials testified that Murray was Jackson's choice and that they had wanted to hire a British doctor.

"He was very firm. He said no, I need my own physician and I need him 24-seven," said Randy Phillips, chief executive of AEG Live.

Murray worked for Jackson for two months but was never paid by AEG because the singer hadn't yet signed the contract, a point that Jorrie, the contract lawyer, noted several times in her testimony.

The civil case is expected to yield far more details about Jackson's problems than the criminal trial did.

"Generally in civil court, the range of issues to be decided is far broader than they ever are in a criminal case; and that means a lot more evidence comes in," said David M. Ring, a Los Angeles lawyer who has sued on behalf of plaintiffs in wrongful death cases. "Instead of just looking in the closet, you are looking in the whole house."

Katherine Jackson's lawyer said he expected that civil jurors would learn vastly more about the singer's relationship with AEG than their criminal-case counterparts did. The case file already includes a copy of Jackson's contract with the promoter, a document kept out of the manslaughter case. Details about Jackson's long-standing financial problems — another subject prohibited in criminal court — would be central to the case against AEG.

Putnam and AEG declined to comment. To defend itself, the company could present unflattering information about Jackson's substance abuse, his seeking of propofol from various physicians dating to the 1990s and his often rocky relationship with his family. None of those topics were allowed at the criminal trial.

Although the suit is still in its early stages, both sides have claimed some victories. Earlier this year, a judge threw out some portions of the Jacksons' suit, including allegations of fraud and negligent infliction of emotional distress on the singer's children. Superior Court Judge Yvette M. Palazuelos ruled that the remainder of the claims — including breach of contract and negligence in hiring Murray — could go forward on the theory that Jackson "was particularly vulnerable and dependent" on AEG.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Jackson family's civil trial blames AEG in singer's death   15th September 2013, 3:00 pm

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Michael Jackson family's civil trial blames AEG in singer's death

Mother and children allege that the entertainment giant heartlessly pressured the star to deliver a comeback tour he was in no shape to take on

posted by mjmtc on Friday, November 18th 2011 @ 8:54 AM


It is clear, as I have said before that AEG and Murray try to distance themselves from eachother... Murray bashes Randy Philips in the documentary and talks of Michael as being weak. AEG has the opposite approach: that Michael was perfectly capable of taking care of himself:

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"Michael Jackson was not helpless or incompetent; he lived in his own home, negotiated his own contracts, engaged his own attorneys, and cared for his own family," lawyers for the company wrote. "He at all times retained the option of refusing Dr. Murray's services, or of cancelig his agreement with AEG."

This part talks of the same things I outlined in my vid 63... when I compared the civil lawsuit from the King family against Jowers and government agencies with this lawsuit.. it will bring forth evidence not seen on Murray's trial

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"Generally in civil court, the range of issues to be decided is far broader than they ever are in a criminal case; and that means a lot more evidence comes in," said David M. Ring, a Los Angeles lawyer who has sued on behalf of plaintiffs in wrongful death cases. "Instead of just looking in the closet, you are looking in the whole house."


And Im still puzzled about the date...
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PostSubject: Brian Panish (Jackson attorney)   15th September 2013, 3:07 pm

posted by Elke Hassell Saturday, November 19th 2011 @ 4:17 PM

Brian Panish – Trial Lawyer

Mr. Panish is a graduate of California State University, Fresno (B.S., Cum Laude, 1980), where he received the Fresno State Scholar Athlete Award and Athletic Directors Award and was also selected as California State University, Fresno’s 2010 Outstanding Alumni. While attending Southwestern Law School (J.D., Cum Laude, 1984), he won the American Jurisprudence Award in Wills and Trusts, Legal Professions Secured Transactions, Entertainment Law and Product Liability.
Verdicts and Settlements

Brian Panish has obtained more than 100 verdicts and settlements in excess of One Million Dollars ($1,000,000), including 10 jury verdicts in excess of Ten Million Dollars ($10,000,000), and one for Four Billion Nine-Hundred and Seven Million Dollars ($4,907,662,321), the largest personal injury and product liability verdict in history. The following is a brief list of a few of the landmark cases that he has been a part of:

   $4.9 Billion – Anderson v. General Motors Corp.
   $3.3 Billion – LA County v. Tobacco Industry
   $58 Million – Griggs v. Caterpillar, et al.
   $55.6 Million – Lampe v. Continental General Tire
   $27 Million – Dominguez v. San Francisco
   $25.5 Million – Sherman v. Courrege
   $22 Million – Pogosyan v. SCRTD
   $21 Million – Michael Nelsen v. Hillyard, Inc., et al.
   $15.75 Million – Doe v. Alaska Airlines
   $15 Million – Tilton v. Southern California Gas & Electric
   $15 Million – Wu v. Singapore Airlines
   $11 Million – Witham v. Avjet
   $10 Million – Doe v. Alaska Airlines
   $9.5 Million – Ledesma v. Patel
   $8 Million – Rastello v. City of Torrance
   $7.3 Million – Susan Elizabeth Johnson v. Pratt & Whitney Canada, Inc.
   $7 Million – Vega Family v. Verizon
   $6.75 Million – Vanmalibhai Galal v. City of Long Beach
   $6.5 Million – Flores v. Doe
   $6.25 Million – DeLew v. NHP (Nevada Highway Patrol)*
   $5.7 Million – Gonzalez v. Dresick Farms
   $5.5 Million – Doe v. Alaska Airlines
   $4.6 Million – Gandy, et al. v. R.W. Manufacturing, et al.
   $4.5 Million – Teraberanyans v. Browning-Ferris Industries
   $4.4 Million – Doiron v. City of Riverside
   $4 Million – Doe v. Flight Booker
   $3.2 Million – Staley v. Los Angeles Metropolitan Transit Agency (MTA)
   $2.75 Million – Juan Cruz v. Hertz Corporation
   $2.7 Million – Sorenson v. Burlington N. Santa Fe Railroad
   $2.6 Million – Pesso v. Meyers
   $2.39 Million – Maurice Dahn v. Rockwell International
   $1.9 Million – Patrick Coyle v. City of Torrance
   $1.6 Million – Ramirez v. Patterson
   $1.5 Million – Bye v. Louisiana Pacific
   $1.5 Million – Castillo & Perez v. SCRTD
   $1.4 Million – Cohen v. Sports Connection
   $1.3 Million – Charles Davin v. Skyview Limousine Service and Palm Springs Limousine Service
   $1.1 Million – Roger Klier v. Southern Contracting
   See all Verdicts and Settlements

*including attorney fees
Honors and Recognitions:

In 1999, Brian Panish was honored as Trial Lawyer of the Year by the Consumer Attorneys of Los Angeles. He is ranked among the “100 Most Influential Attorneys” in the State of California by the Los Angeles Daily Journal.

This recognition of professional excellence highlighted Brian’s work as lead counsel on the liability action against General Motors. The suit involved a defective fuel system, resulting in burn injuries to four children and two adults. The resulting $4.9 billion verdict is the largest personal injury and product liability verdict in American judicial history.

Previously, the Trial Lawyers for Public Justice selected him as national finalist for Trial Lawyer of the Year in 1990 and 1995. He earned similar recognition from the Consumer Attorneys Association of Los Angeles in 1992, 1995 and 1998, when they named him as a finalist for the Trial Lawyer of the Year.

His involvement in high profile cases includes serving as a member of the Plaintiffs Steering Committee in the tryptophan litigation and on the State Fen-Phen Diet Drug Litigation Plaintiff Executive Committee.

Mr. Panish’s published decisions include Johnson v. Pratt & Whitney (1995) 28 Cal.App.4th 613 and Pashaie v. Hollywood Memorial Park (1992) 3 Cal.App.4th 184 and Hecht v. Superior Court.

More Honors & Recognitions:

   2010 Outstanding Alumni – Fresno State
   2010 Loyola Law School of Los Angeles, Champions of Justice Awards
   2010 Trial Lawyer of the Year for the American Board of Trial Advocates (ABOTA) – California Chapter

Memberships / Organizations:

Mr. Panish is a member of the Consumer Attorneys Association of California where he sits on the Board of Governors. Brian is a frequent lecturer on all aspects of trial procedure in California and throughout the United States. He served as Co-Chairperson of the Consumer Attorneys of California Annual Lake Tahoe Seminar in 1999 and 2000. Groups he has addressed include: The American Bar Association, Consumer Attorneys of Los Angeles, Consumer Attorneys of California, Association of Trial Lawyers of America, Attorneys Information Exchange Group, Western Trial Lawyers Association, Inner Circle of Advocates, Washington State Trial Lawyers Association, and Alabama Trial Lawyers Association.

The following is a list of some of the organizations Mr. Panish is involved in:

   American College of Trial Lawyers
   Super Lawyers
   Martindale Hubbell AV 5 of 5 Peer Rating
   Avvo
   Attorney Information Exchange Group
   Western Trial Lawyers Association
   International Society of Barristers
   American Board of Trial Advocates (ABOTA)
   Inner Circle of Advocates – 100 of the Best Plaintiff Lawyers In the U.S.
   Association of Business Trial Lawyers
   Eighth Street Lawyers

Brian Panish in the News:

The following is a list of some of the articles in which Brian Panish is featured:

   Brian Panish of Panish Shea & Boyle LLP Top Vote Getter Among Southern California’s Personal Injury Super Lawyers
   Former Fresno State footballer (Panish) gives generously to Dan Brown Legacy Fund – MedWatch Today, 9/2/10
   Brian Panish and the Toyota Recall – Press Release, 6/7/10
   Judge Agrees to Expand Plaintiffs Committees in Toyota MDL – The National Law Journal, 5/17/10
   Brian Panish Receives #3 Ranking in 2010 List of Top 10 Southern California Super Lawyers – Press Release, 2/2/10
   Personal Injury Litigators of 2010– The National Law Journal, 2010

   
   Brian Panish and Kevin Boyle Talk About Their Numerous Wins in Air Disaster Cases– The National Law Journal, 2010

   
   The Los Angeles Area’s Best Lawyers 2006 Survey Results – West – Los Angeles Times Magazine, 11/12/06
   The Top 100: California’s Leading Lawyers – The Daily Journal, 9/21/06
   Profiles in Power: The 100 Most Influential Lawyers in America– The National Law Journal, 6/19/06

   
   Lawyering Up Pellicano’s Victims – Deadline Hollywood Daily, 3/9/06
   Does Brian Panish Ever Lose? – Super Lawyers Magazine, 2006
   The Plaintiffs’ Hot List– The National Law Journal, 10/10/05

   
   One of America’s Top Trial Lawyers Opens New Law Firm – Press Contact, 4/18/05
   Top 10 LA County Super Lawyers – Southern California Super Lawyers, 2/05
    A Report On The Lawsuit Industry In California 2005 – Trial Lawyers Inc., 2005
   Jury Trials in The US – Faculty of Law, University of Hong Kong, 10/11/04
   The Top 100 – The Daily Journal, 10/27/03
    Brian Panish Interview – California Civil Jury Instructions, 2003
   The Top 100…Reasons Why It’s Good That Lawyers Have Power – The Daily Journal, 9/30/02
   The Top 100 – The Daily Journal, 10/29/01
   WINNING – Successful Strategies from 10 of the Nation’s Leading Litigators – The National Law Journal, 2001
   The Top 100: California Law Business Ranks the State’s Most Influential Attorneys for 2000 – The Daily Journal, 10/30/00
   The Top 100: California Law Business Ranks the State’s Most Influential Attorneys for 1999 – The Daily Journal, 9/13/99
    To Panish, Client’s Most Important – Verdicts & Settlements, 2/16/96
    Brian Panish named TLPJ’s Trial Lawyer of the Year – TLPJ Foundation Letter, 8/6/90
    ATLA Meeting This Week in San Diego – California Law Business, 7/23/90
    LA’s Top Attorneys & Law Firms – Angeleno Magazine
   Panish Leaves Greene Broillet For Own Firm – The Daily Journal
    Panish Among 500 Leading Lawyers – Lawdragon
   Panish Among 500 Leading Litigators – Lawdragon

Brian J. Panish Bio:

   Born Los Angeles, California, April 19, 1958
   Languages: Spanish
   Courts Admitted: U.S. District Court, Central, Southern and Northern Districts of California

The plaintiffs’ attorneys at Panish Shea & Boyle LLP are highly regarded nationwide and frequently honored by various organizations and publications for their landmark verdicts and settlements. As a result, the firm often receives case referrals from other lawyers and law firms. Whether we handle a matter in its entirety or joint venture with attorneys who are interested in being involved in the litigation, Panish Shea & Boyle welcomes the opportunity to assist you with your case.

Learn More About:

   Referral fee arrangements
   Referral fees paid on cases
   Contact us

Below is a list of just some of the referral amounts we have recently paid to attorneys :

   $7 million
   $4 million
   $3.5 million
   $2.05 million
   $1.8 million
   $1.7 million
   $1.2 million
   $1.2 million
   $1.1 million
   $1.1 million

See complete list

Listed below are some of the cases we are currently involved in:

   CUTHBERTSON v. LACMTA
   Passenger killed due to lack of protective barriers.[more..]
   FITCH v. AAA PROPANE INC.
   Plaintiff’s car was hit by a AAA propane truck.[more..]
   PPH PLAINTIFFS v. PFIZER AND WYETH
   Several women developed PPH after taking Fen Phen.[more..]
   HASKELL v. FARMERS INSURANCE
   Bad faith insurance case for failure to compensate Haskell under UIM policy.[more..]
   LEE v. RIVERSIDE TRUCK & EQUIPMENT
   Company truck slammed into back of plaintiff’s car, resulting in brain damage.[more..]
   HIP REPLACEMENT RECALL
   Prosecuting claims against DePuy for failure of ASR hip replacements.[more..]
   UCLA CAMPUS STABBING
   The firm represents a UCLA student who was brutally attacked by another student while in class [more..]
   MICHAEL JACKSON COMPLAINT
   Complaint filed for wrongful death of Michael Jackson [more..]
   TOYOTA RECALL
   Panish involved in massive Toyota Recall. [more..]
   YOON v. BOEING
   The family of four killed in the crash in San Diego sues the federal government and Boeing.[more..]

   Brian Panish and Spencer Lucas Finalists for 2011 Consumer Attorney of the Year
   [more..]
   Cuthbertson v. LACMTA
   $17 million verdict for mother of visually impaired passenger who was killed after he fell between Metro rail cars because of lack of protective barriers.
   Curiel v. SSA Marine
   $13.96 million verdict for severely injured Long Beach port truck driver.
   Morataya v. City of Bakersfield
   $2.1 million verdict for wrongful death of 54-year-old man.
   DePuy Hip Implant Litigation
   Peter J. Polos appointed to serve on Plaintiff's Committee.
   Southern California Super Lawyers 2011
   All Panish Shea & Boyle LLP firm partners were named as 2011 Super Lawyers.
   Record Wrongful Death Verdict - Barber v. Mossy Ford
   Firm involved in largest wrongful death case in San Diego County
   Southern California's Best Lawyers 2011 Edition
   Firm selected for inclusion in Southern California's Best Lawyers 2011 Edition & Panish featured in Cover Spotlight.
   Record-Breaking Verdict - Robert Crenshaw v. Land O’Lakes, Inc.
   Firm announces record-breaking verdict against Land O’Lakes, Inc.
   Best Law Firm Ranking - U.S. News & World Report
   Firm honored as "Tier 1" law firm by inaugural U.S. News and World Report / Best Lawyers Best Law Firm rankings list
   Toyota Recall
   Brian Panish appointed to serve on Plaintiff's Committee.
   Vega Family v. Verizon
   $7 Million Awarded to Vega Family for Wrongful Death Claim Against Verizon.
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PostSubject: Michael Koskoff (Jackson attorney)   15th September 2013, 3:10 pm

posted by mjmtc on Thursday, December 8th 2011 @ 5:14 AM

Reinforcements being called in to get to the bad guys... Basketball 


Connecticut Attorney to Represent Michael Jackson's Family - Koskoff, Koskoff & Bieder


Michael Koskoff, a partner in the Connecticut-based law firm Koskoff, Koskoff & Bieder, has joined the legal team bringing a wrongful death case civil suit for the family of Michael Jackson.
The suit is against entertainment giant Anschutz Entertainment Group and its concert promotion subsidiary, AEG Live, for the death of the pop icon.
Koskoff joins a Los Angeles law-firm, Panish, Shea & Boyle, in representing members of Jackson's family, including his children Michael Joseph Jackson Jr., Paris-Michael Katherine Jackson, and Prince, as well as their legal guardian, grandmother Katherine Jackson (Michael's mother).
Jackson's father, Joseph, is not represented in the suit.
AEG, a corporation that produces and promotes live entertainment, owns and operates concert venues, clubs, theaters, arenas and stadiums, including the Staples Center in Los Angeles where Michael Jackson had been rehearsing for his worldwide concert tour, "This Is It."
Rehearsals for Jackson's long-awaited comeback tour had begun in April of 2009. The legendary singer went into cardiac arrest and died on June 25, 2009. The suit alleges that AEG had arranged to retain Dr. Conrad Murray, a cardiologist, to serve as Jackson's personal, on-call physician. Murray, 58, was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in connection with Jackson's death from a drug overdose. Prosecutors in the criminal case argued that Murray behaved recklessly by using a surgical anesthetic to treat the 50-year-old singer's insomnia and was therefore criminally negligent in the performer's death. Murray acknowledged giving Jackson Propofol as a sleep aid, but denied any wrongdoing. The powerful anesthetic is normally administered only in hospital settings. The Los Angeles County coroner blamed Jackson's death on Propofol intoxication and ruled it a homicide. More than two years after Jackson died, Murray was sentenced to four years in county jail and was required to pay nominal fines as well.
The civil lawsuit filed by Katherine Jackson accuses AEG of negligence in retaining Murray and forcing Jackson to agree to be under his care or to risk having the tour canceled. The suit also alleges that AEG participated in allowing Murray to act without adhering to proper medical standards.
Koskoff, Koskoff & Bieder, nationally known for personal injury, medical malpractice, product liability, and class actions, concentrates its practice in handling cases for people who suffer serious personal injury or economic harm.
Attorneys from KK&B have been responsible for important changes in the conduct of corporate and government defendants. The firm has offices in Bridgeport, Danbury, New Haven, and Stamford. Website: http://www.koskoff.com

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PostSubject: Re: Michael Koskoff (Jackson attorney)   15th September 2013, 3:16 pm

Bridgeport lawyer joins Michael Jackson legal team



Published on the Internet 02:00 p.m., Tuesday, October 11, 2011

Connecticut Post

The children and mother of pop star Michael Jackson have reached out to a Bridgeport lawyer for help in their wrongful death lawsuit against the late singer's concert promoter.

Attorney Michael Koskoff has joined the legal team representing Katherine Jackson, the singer's mother, and his three children against AEG Live, the company that was producing his planned tour, and other defendants, according to papers filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court earlier this month.

Koskoff is a principal of the law firm Koskoff, Koskoff and Bieder in Bridgeport and has practiced law in Connecticut for more than 30 years. The firm, which additionally has offices in Stamford, Danbury and New Haven, has specialized in malpractice cases and typically gets much of its work from other law firms.

A spokesperson for Koskoff said he was not able to comment on his role in the Jackson case.

Jackson died on June 25, 2009. Dr. Conrad Murray is now on trial for involuntary manslaughter in connection with Jackson's death from a drug overdose.

The lawsuit filed by Katherine Jackson accuses AEG of hiring Murray and forcing Jackson to agree to be under his care or to risk having the tour canceled and that the company influenced Murray to act without adhering to proper medical standards.

AEG attorneys have said the company could not have realized that Murray's medical decisions would have resulted in Jackson's death.

In February, a Superior Court judge ruled the wrongful death case could proceed, but made it clear the plaintiffs would need to show evidence of fraud, negligent infliction of emotional distress and civil conspiracy, according to a Reuters report.

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PostSubject: AEG is claiming that Katherine Jackson is not answering their questions   15th September 2013, 3:19 pm

posted by Elke on Sunday, April 1st 2012 @ 1:31 PM

Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG /

Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

   There's a motion to compel hearing set for April 24 in Katherine Jackson - AEG lawsuit.

   Before trial happens both sides send interrogatories - questions - to the other side to answer and request for documents . AEG is now claiming that Katherine Jackson is not answering their questions and they filed thousands of pages showing all the communications and asking the judge to order Katherine Jackson to answer AEG's questions.

   Summary

   - April 2011 AEG sends the questions and document requests to Katherine, Prince, Paris and Blanket.
   - After delays in November 2011 Katherine and the kids sends all objections to all questions asked. They did not answer any questions or provided any documents to AEG.
   - All of the December & January is filled with back and forth communications with Katherine's and AEG's lawyers to find a solution to the requests and not answering. They finally agree on mid-February to answer all the requests with minor modifications.
   - Early February Katherine Jackson sends her initial answers but they are all the same answer copy pasted - which is in most instances just a repeat of the complaint.
   - Mid- February deadline comes and AEG still does not receive the additional and all required answers and Katherine's lawyers start to ask for indefinite extensions. AEG at that time says they cannot give indefinite extensions because they need to get the answers and prepare for the trial.
   - AEG waits for Mid-March but they get no documents or no additional responses.
   - AEG says they weren't able to take depositions of the Jackson family members. Katherine was supposed to be deposed at March 1st but she didn't show up for deposition. They also haven't given a new date.

   Therefore AEG is asking the judge to order Katherine Jackson to answer the questions and document requests.

   From the documents we can see that the documents AEG is asking for includes
   - anything about Michael's health
   - anything about the doctors
   - anything about how success or failure of TII would affect Michael financially
   - any documents or communications with Michael's staff - Grace, Karen Faye, Kai Chase and the bodyguards are explicitly named.
   - any documents about financial allowances or gifts Michael gave to Katherine and the rest of the Jacksons.
   - any document about Katherine's finances and assets
   - all social media, internet accounts, blogs, emails used by Michael, Katherine, Michael's kids and all Jacksons.
   - anything about Michael's diet, nutrition or eating disorders
   - anything about Michael's financial information as well as actual or potential bankruptcy
   - any diary, journal, calendar etc kept by Michael.
   - any autopsy reports
   - documents about any mental health issues Michael suffered through his lifetime.
   - any documents or communications about substance abuse, interventions , rehab
   - any documents or communications about if Michael had consideration or propensity to commit suicide.

   Questions asked to Katherine include
   - Asking Katherine to explain the information she based her claims on
   - how Katherine spent time with Michael between 04-09
   - any communications Katherine had with Michael about his health , addiction, substance abuse, interventions and so on.
   - communications with Michael between June 17 and June 24.
   - Katherine's impression about Michael's health
   - Michael's finances
   - any time Katherine saw Michael to take any medicine/ drug and any effects she saw
   - any time Katherine saw Michael impaired or under the effects of drugs, alcohol such as slurred speech, bloodshot eyes
   - explain any time Michael spent in rehab
   - any talks Katherine had with Michael about TII
   - explain items, objects, documents taken from Michael's residences by Jacksons.

   Questions sent to Prince, Paris and Blanket include
   - asking them to identify all people that lived or worked in Carolwood from Jan 09 to June 09
   - tell about any instances anyone talking / asking them about Michael's health
   - tell about any instances anyone talking / asking them about Michael's addictions or mental health issues
   - asking them to tell how they spent time with Michael including activities they did and typical conversations they had
   - asking if they talked with Michael about his health and medicines he took
   - asking them about their impression of Michael's physical and mental health
   - all interactions and communications from June 23 to June 25
   - asking about when they first met Murray and asking them to tell when and where they saw Murray over the years.
   - asking about all their interactions , communications with Murray
   - asking if they witnessed Murray to give Michael medical treatment
   - asking if they saw Michael to take any medicine and any effects they witnessed
   - asking if they ever saw Michael impaired
   - asking about any drugs or alcohol present in Carolwood
   - any conversations they had with Michael about TII
   - their impression about Michael's physical and mental health
   - asking about their interactions with Klein
   - asking about any conversations they had about Michael with the Jacksons

   Note: These requests for information and documents are done to gather information so that the parties can prepare for the trial. Just because a question is asked doesn't mean it happened or that the person has any knowledge about it.
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PostSubject: Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG   15th September 2013, 3:44 pm

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posted by Elke on Sunday, April 1st 2012 @ 1:31 PM

Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG /
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posted by Nimue on Monday, April 2nd 2012 @ 3:11 AM



I wonder why Katherine lawyers didn't reply to AEG in this lawsuit. If this is part of the process and the answer can be "I don't know", why they are not answering?

It seems AEG wants a lot, even more than Lloyd and Murray's defense:

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anything about Michael's health
- anything about the doctors
- anything about how success or failure of TII would affect Michael financially
- any documents or communications with Michael's staff - Grace, Karen Faye, Kai Chase and the bodyguards are explicitly named.
- any documents about financial allowances or gifts Michael gave to Katherine and the rest of the Jacksons.
- any document about Katherine's finances and assets
- all social media, internet accounts, blogs, emails used by Michael, Katherine, Michael's kids and all Jacksons.
- anything about Michael's diet, nutrition or eating disorders
- anything about Michael's financial information as well as actual or potential bankruptcy
- any diary, journal, calendar etc kept by Michael.
- any autopsy reports
- documents about any mental health issues Michael suffered through his lifetime.
- any documents or communications about substance abuse, interventions , rehab
- any documents or communications about if Michael had consideration or propensity to commit suicide.

Some of the documents asked are non sense..

all social media, internet accounts, blogs, emails used by Michael, Katherine, Michael's kids and all Jacksons -

Social media? They want to kno wthe internet accounts used by Michael?

Me tooLaughing and all the believers around the world... hehehe.. get in line!.

Maybe we should send TheMainAttraction youtube channel or PeterPanPYT twitter to them..

So Michael's kids internert accounts? At least Paris and Prince twitters are public...hehehe

All the Jacksons internet accounts.. This will take a long time to list the family is huge.

Are they looking if Michael is communicating by the social media with his family?.

any diary, journal, calendar etc kept by Michael.

Do they want to know Michael's private thoughts? Do they want to write a book?

any autopsy reports

How many do they want?Wink One is not enough? It seems to have one around and it is public.

documents about any mental health issues Michael suffered through his lifetime.

Do they want to know what? Is Michael crazy?

Wow.

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Questions asked to Katherine include
- Asking Katherine to explain the information she based her claims on
- how Katherine spent time with Michael between 04-09
- any communications Katherine had with Michael about his health , addiction, substance abuse, interventions and so on.
- communications with Michael between June 17 and June 24.
- Katherine's impression about Michael's health
- Michael's finances
- any time Katherine saw Michael to take any medicine/ drug and any effects she saw
- any time Katherine saw Michael impaired or under the effects of drugs, alcohol such as slurred speech, bloodshot eyes
- explain any time Michael spent in rehab
- any talks Katherine had with Michael about TII
- explain items, objects, documents taken from Michael's residences by Jacksons.

This list is weird.

how Katherine spent time with Michael between 04-09

Why between 2004 (before Michael's trial) and 2009?

Why the time before 2009 is important to them. By the way 2004 was the year Michael visited Cirque du Soilel

communications with Michael between June 17 and June 24

Communications between this specific timelime.. Interesting. Jun 18 was when the riot act was read at Michael's house.

It seems this period of time has an important significance to AEG!

explain items, objects, documents taken from Michael's residences by Jacksons

Why would she need to explain the personal objects removed from Carolwood dr. after the event to AEG? Is AEG looking for something missing that was there?


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Questions sent to Prince, Paris and Blanket include
- asking them to identify all people that lived or worked in Carolwood from Jan 09 to June 09
- tell about any instances anyone talking / asking them about Michael's health
- tell about any instances anyone talking / asking them about Michael's addictions or mental health issues
- asking them to tell how they spent time with Michael including activities they did and typical conversations they had
- asking if they talked with Michael about his health and medicines he took
- asking them about their impression of Michael's physical and mental health
- all interactions and communications from June 23 to June 25
- asking about when they first met Murray and asking them to tell when and where they saw Murray over the years.
- asking about all their interactions , communications with Murray
- asking if they witnessed Murray to give Michael medical treatment
- asking if they saw Michael to take any medicine and any effects they witnessed
- asking if they ever saw Michael impaired
- asking about any drugs or alcohol present in Carolwood
- any conversations they had with Michael about TII
- their impression about Michael's physical and mental health
- asking about their interactions with Klein
- asking about any conversations they had about Michael with the Jacksons

This sounds to me the most weird questions to make to children about their father , when they were 12, 11 and 7 years old:

asking them to identify all people that lived or worked in Carolwood from Jan 09 to June 09

Do they want to know if someone else was living at the house, even before Murray got in the scene?

Are the children suppose to know all the employees? They should look at the payroll to know that
tell about any instances anyone talking / asking them about Michael's health
tell about any instances anyone talking / asking them about Michael's addictions or mental health issues

Who would ask this kind of question to children at that age?
asking them to tell how they spent time with Michael including activities they did and typical conversations they had
Do they want to know if they played "peek a boo? videogames or what?
all interactions and communications from June 23 to June 25
Again, why is this timeframe so important?
Are they trying to find out how Michael set this up with the children?

-asking about their interactions with Klein
Maybe they are thinking the children got a facial treatment... Kidding here. What a weird question to make since the children know Klein for a long time. Why is this so important to ask?

-asking about any conversations they had about Michael with the Jacksons
Naturally this would be a long answer, since the family is huge. do they have to remember all the talks they have with all the members of the family about their father?
No wonder, Katherine is not answering..
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PostSubject: Re: The beginning   15th September 2013, 3:45 pm

posted by Nimue on Monday, April 2nd 2012 @ 3:56 AM


ps: Just a note:

all interactions and communications from June 23 to June 25

How the children were suppose to interact and communicate with Michael at Jun 25? From the news he was suppose to be dead at this day!

I am surprised they didn't ask about all the interactions and communications after Jun 25!
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PostSubject: Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG   15th September 2013, 3:48 pm

posted by ElkeHassell on Tuesday, April 17th 2012 @ 11:07 PM


I HAVE ASKED FOR PERMISSION TO COPY THIS FROM MJJC


Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

   Update : April 17 , 2012

   Not surprisingly Katherine Jackson's lawyers have filed opposition documents to AEG's motion asking the judge to order Katherine Jackson to answer interrogatories, document requests and deposition.

   Main points :
   - Katherine's lawyers argue that AEG's motion is unnecessary because Katherine already agreed to be deposed on April 17, 2012 (which was today).
   - No one from AEG has been deposed to this date as well.

   - Katherine (and Prince, Paris, Blanket) will submit supplemental responses to the interrogatories before April 24 (hearing date).
   - Katherine (and Prince, Paris, Blanket) do not have any documents in regards to most of the requests and if they have anything they would provide them to AEG before April 24 (hearing date).

   - Katherine's lawyers argue that AEG cannot complain about the responses Katherine already sent them. (If you remember AEG argued that Katherine responded by sending the same answer copied pasted to multiple questions. AEG argues this is non-responsive.) Katherine's lawyers argue that Katherine's responses are proper and even objections can be sent as a response.
   - Katherine's lawyers state "just because AEG Live doesn't like Mrs. Jackson's response, it's not entitled to a court order mandating that she change it"
   - They state as some of the questions are about to find out Katherine's legal theories in this case, objections to such questions saying that they are protected "work products" or "attorney-client privilege" is proper.

   The document reads

   "The plaintiffs (Katherine and PPB) did not, at the time of filling of the complaint nor currently possess the full body of evidence of this misconduct. Rather, plaintiffs suspected (correctly) that this evidence would emerge in discovery and indeed it has."

   Furthermore they state

   "The most evidence of Defendants (AEG) wrongdoing is in Defendants (AEG) possession"

   In other words Katherine's lawyer say that they still do not have the full evidence but they are uncovering evidence from the documents / answers sent to them from AEG. They also argue that AEG have the answers / documents / evidence in their possession.

   They cite some examples of this evidence.

   - First is a June 2009 email from Gongaware which states " We want to remind him (Murray) that it is AEG, not MJ who is paying his salary. We want him (Murray) to understand what is expected of him (Murray)".
   - It's stated that Michael missed / did not attend rehearsals on June 13 based on Murray's direction (which resulted in the above email). It's alleged that the next day Gongaware called for a meeting with Murray asking him to explain why Michael missed a rehearsal. It's stated that after AEG's reminder (that they are paying Murray) and Murray's job was to get Michael to rehearsals, Murray started creating a schedule for Michael so Michael would not miss rehearsals.
   - There's a mention that Gongaware and Phillips was advised on June 19 that Michael was a "basket case". (no other details are provided)
   - It's also stated that on June 20 meeting Murray guaranteed he would resolve the situation with Michael missing the rehearsals.
   - KJ's lawyers argue that either implicitly or explicitly AEG was requiring Michael to treat with Murray and work with Murray to get to rehearsals.
   - KJ's lawyers also argue that AEG / Phillips has supervised Murray as he asked him to look into Klein's treatment of Michael.
   - The documents also state that Murray's goal was not health and well-being of his patient MJ but Murray's object was to ensure that Michael attended rehearsals as AEG wanted.

   Tidbit : From the documents we also learned that Katherine's lawyers served Paul Gongaware with a notice of videotaped deposition on September 28,2011 after he testified in Murray trial. AEG's lawyers rejected the deposition request citing that Gongaware was still "subject to be recalled as witness" on the criminal trial.

   Disclaimer: This summary is the copyrighted property of MJJC. Copying / translating this material is ONLY permitted by REQUEST. Contact Ivy for permission.
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PostSubject: Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG   15th September 2013, 3:50 pm


posted by mjmtc on Saturday, April 21st 2012 @ 12:53 AM


Thank you for the interesting post Elke and thank you for asking permission to use it. I especially like this part:

Quote :

- Katherine's lawyers state "just because AEG Live doesn't like Mrs. Jackson's response, it's not entitled to a court order mandating that she change it"

It kinda shows how much they are fighting in the dark here. They have no clue how to handle this because they know they are guilty as sin. I like the way Katherine's answers are copypasted.. hehehe... right in their faces.

Quote :

Tidbit : From the documents we also learned that Katherine's lawyers served Paul Gongaware with a notice of videotaped deposition on September 28,2011 after he testified in Murray trial. AEG's lawyers rejected the deposition request citing that Gongaware was still "subject to be recalled as witness" on the criminal trial.

Well guess he is no longer subject to recall, so lets have the deposition. He is one of the defendents and one of the bad ones, so lets bring him forward.
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