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PostSubject: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:04 am

posted by Nimue on Friday, July 22nd 2011

Members of Michael Jackson’s family have called a press conference for Monday in Beverly Hills to announce a concert tribute to MJ that will benefit charities in the U.S. and the United Kingdom.

Michael’s mother, Katherine, will be joined at the Beverly Hills Hotel by his siblings Marlon, Tito, Jackie and LaToya to reveal details of the tribute, with strong hints in the press release that it will focus on Michael’s “Thriller” album. The press release issued Thursday referred to the concert as a “thriller of an event,” which is being coordinated by the family members and promoter Global Live Events, not Michael’s estate.

A spokeswoman for the event said no other information is available until Monday’s press conference. Pop & Hiss will carry more details after the announcement.



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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:07 am

posted by shadow1026 on Friday, July 22nd 2011

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Members of Michael Jackson’s family have called a press conference for Monday in Beverly Hills to announce a concert tribute to MJ that will benefit charities in the U.S. and the United Kingdom.
Michael’s mother, Katherine, will be joined at the Beverly Hills Hotel by his siblings Marlon, Tito, Jackie and LaToya to reveal details of the tribute, with strong hints in the press release that it will focus on Michael’s “Thriller” album. The press release issued Thursday referred to the concert as a “thriller of an event,” which is being coordinated by the family members and promoter Global Live Events, not Michael’s estate.
I like this part:

"STRONG HINTS" in the press release that it will focus on Michael's "THRILLER" album."

and this part:

"The press release issued thursday referred to the concert as a "THRILLER OF AN EVENT,"

The reporters based their info from above that it is in reference to the Thriller album....or IS IT?

Anyways,

The "THRILLER OF EVENT" COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE. I keep thinking about the Zombie movie the kids were possibly reinacting and said it was accidentally leaked.

thriller=zombie=dead coming to life

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A spokeswoman for the event said no other information is available until Monday’s press conference. Pop & Hiss will carry more details after the announcement.
I'm looking forward to Monday. I also can't wait to hear what the estate says about this!


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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:07 am

posted by MaryJo on Friday, July 22nd 2011

I wonder how the family is able to make this announcement without permission from the Michael Jackson Estate.

The familys using Michaels "Thriller" album legacy without permission from estate...wth??
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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:08 am

posted by shadow1026 on Friday, July 22nd 2011

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I wonder how the family is able to make this announcement without permission from the Michael Jackson Estate.

The familys using Michaels "Thriller" album legacy without permission from estate...wth??
EXACTLY!!!

IS THIS BAIT to expose the estate executors? AND THEN BAMMMMM?

With all the Latoya interviews pointing fingers to the estate and others, this could be the BIG THRILLING EVENT we've been waiting for.

Or will this press conference lead us to something bigger?

We have about 47 days before the Murray fake Manslaughter trial. Time is ticking.

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:10 am

posted by The Fairy on Friday, July 22nd 2011

Michael Jackson Show Will Be Global Smash, Say Promoters

The proposed Michael Jackson tribute concert will feature a galaxy of international superstars and will "touch the hearts of millions" around the world, according to organisers.

The King of Pop's mother Katherine and his siblings Marlon, Tito, Jackie and La Toya are working with officials at promotion company Global Live Events to stage a spectacular show in honour of the late star.

Details of the concert, which will benefit charities in the U.S. and the U.K., will be revealed at a special press conference in Los Angeles on Monday (25Jul11), but the promoters are certain the event will be a global smash.

A spokeswoman for Global Live Events says, "(It) will feature the world's most amazing music performers and be in honour of one of the greatest and best-loved entertainers of our time. This spectacular event will touch the hearts of millions around the world."


My comment: Interesting how Joe and Jermaine who have worked relentlessly since the "Victory Tour" to get a reunion with Michael and Jermaine who tried really hard in late 2009 to get a tribute together are not part of this.
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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:11 am

posted by Nimue on Friday, July 22nd 2011

About the company Global Live Events:

Global Live Events is a world-renowned event based TV and DVD specialists with offices in London, New York and Los Angeles. Specializing in the fields of arts, music, drama and entertainment, Global Live is known for creating original and compelling live entertainment and recorded programming featuring music superstars from around the world. We have worked with a wide range of artist including Michael Jackson, Abba, The Beatles, Eric Clapton, Madonna and Placido Domingo and more.

Since its creation in 1988, Global Live has created award winning, ground breaking and entertaining formats that span a multitude of music genres. We have successfully produced a long string of major documentaries and performances, both in the UK and internationally, winning 4 Emmy Awards and over fifty nominations and awards in the major festivals around the world.

Often live to air, Global Live has also created content for mobile phones, TV, DVD, the Internet, concert venue screens, buildings, cinemas and other electronic media. Many of our events are broadcast simultaneously to multiple media formats. Our credits include Madonna Live at the Brixton Academy, The Corrs Live on Sky (the first multiple stream concert in the world), and the 2006 MTV Video Music Awards (used the entire inside of Radio City Music Hall as video surface

We’ve never knowingly taken the easy route, whether filming the Stunt Awards in Los Angeles, Miss World in Africa, The Laureus Sports Awards in Russia, following a band for a full 24 hours to create a fast turn-around documentary, or building an entire tented city in Weston-Super-Mare for T4 On the Beach.

We also pride ourselves on making sure multiple agencies have their needs met, and that the programming we produce reflects and embodies the client’s brand values. In the past we have produced ad-funded or sponsored content for Adidas, Lynx, Carling, Toyota, Victoria’s Secret, Morgan Stanley, Ikea and X-Box 360, all with very different objectives, brand values and world views.

Oh and most importantly – we love what we do and do it with a big grin.
Chris Hunt Global Live


http://www.globalliveeventsuk.com/about

They also created this video:

http://vimeo.com/20855213
PS: London keeps poping up. Everything seems to be bound to London and LA.
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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:12 am

posted by shadow1026 on Friday, July 22nd 2011

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My comment: Interesting how Joe and Jermaine who have worked relentlessly since the "Victory Tour" to get a reunion with Michael and Jermaine who tried really hard in late 2009 to get a tribute together are not part of this.
It will also be interesting to see when and how long it will take before the ESTATE intervenes.

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About the company Global Live Events:

Oh and most importantly – we love what we do and do it with a big grin.
Chris Hunt Global Live

http://www.globalliveeventsuk.com/about
They also created this video:
http://vimeo.com/20855213
PS: London keeps poping up. Everything seems to be bound to London and LA.
I watched the GLOBAL LIVE video you posted above. I find something interesting included in this video.

I wonder if she is in the "thrilling event" tribute and knows something.
She sure is smiling a cheesy smile while discussing something supposedly sad that happened to MIKE.
I find this odd.

Check this out:
http://vimeo.com/20855213
1:12 " There are a few individuals who have been ALLOWED to have that kind of ...fame. You know...
1:22 (SHE NOW HAS A SNEAKY SMILE AND ROLLS HER EYES OVER QUICKLY TO SOMEONE WHILE SAYING)
"oh . but what it cost though (SMILE, EYES WONDER) look at what it cost (SMILE)"

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:16 am

posted by Nimue on Friday, July 22nd 2011

About Chris Hunt:
Founder & CEO UK – Chris Hunt

Founder and Chief Executive Chris Hunt is one of the most respected producers and directors of music and arts programming in the UK and beyond. Chris was a producer at the BBC, then became a Director at LWT’s The South Bank Show and went on to found Iambic in 1988. Since then he has been responsible for an eclectic range of the highest-profile films in the music, arts, drama and entertainment genres. Today Chris continues to direct and produce films and also heads up the sister company, Iambic Rights. He is a Member of the Board of the International Emmys and President of the IMZ, the international UNESCO-affiliated trade body for broadcasters, record labels, venues, producers and distributors of serious music programming.



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Shadow wrote:
Shadow wrote:

I wonder if she is in the "thrilling event" tribute and knows something.
She sure is smiling a cheesy smile while discussing something supposedly sad that happened to MIKE.
I find this odd.

Check this out:
http://vimeo.com/20855213
1:12 " There are a few individuals who have been ALLOWED to have that kind of ...fame. You know...
1:22 (SHE NOW HAS A SNEAKY SMILE AND ROLLS HER EYES OVER QUICKLY TO SOMEONE WHILE SAYING)
"oh . but what it cost though (SMILE, EYES WONDER) look at what it cost (SMILE)"
This video made by Global Live Events is a composition with Michael's videos. It is interesting the way they made it.
The part you are talking about is from Michael's Numbers one video from 2003. Maybe I am wrong with the date.
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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:18 am

posted by shadow1026 on Friday, July 22nd 2011

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Shadow wrote:
I wonder if she is in the "thrilling event" tribute and knows something.
She sure is smiling a cheesy smile while discussing something supposedly sad that happened to MIKE.
I find this odd.

Check this out:
http://vimeo.com/20855213
1:12 " There are a few individuals who have been ALLOWED to have that kind of ...fame. You know...
1:22 (SHE NOW HAS A SNEAKY SMILE AND ROLLS HER EYES OVER QUICKLY TO SOMEONE WHILE SAYING)
"oh . but what it cost though (SMILE, EYES WONDER) look at what it cost (SMILE)"
This video made by Global Live Events is a composition with Michael's videos. It is interesting the way they made it.
The part you are talking about is from Michael's Numbers one video from 2003. Maybe I am wrong with the date.
Oh ok.

I thought she was smiling while discussing his death!

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:20 am

posted by Nimue on Friday, July 22nd 2011

Oh.. I know. When I first saw this video I got the same impression, soon after this someone gave me "Michael Jackson The One" DVD and I saw the same scene. But it was very interesting the way they selected the clips to add in this video. Also the use of the Black Panther clip.

Another thing interesing with this announcement: It will take on the 25th month of the "event" (Jun 25, 2009).

25 month = 2+ 5 = 7

And it will happen on the 25th day of the month:

25 day = 2 + 5 = 7

In the seveth month of the year = 7

And we have = 777

Wow.
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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:21 am

posted by MaryJo on Friday, July 22nd 2011

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Another thing interesing with this announcement: It will take on the 25th month of the "event" (Jun 25, 2009)25 month = 2+ 5 = 7And it will happen on the 25th day of the month 25 day = 2 + 5 = 7In the seveth month of the year = 7And we have = 777Wow.
Michael is Jehovah Witness and JW are not allowed / dont believe in numerology.

So when believers talk about the numbers / numerology, its not Michael but only believers read into something he doesnt believe in.

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:22 am

posted by The Fairy on Friday, July 22nd 2011

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Michael is Jehovah Witness and JW are not allowed / dont believe in numerology.So when believers talk about the numbers / numerology, its not Michael but only believers read into something he doesnt believe in.
I will have to disagree. Michael is very much so into numbers. The "777" on his lion shirt in This Is It (which wasnt on the shirt to begin with). Just as "666" represents the devil, "777" represents the good.

Michael has used numbers for a very long time, not only at the time just around his hoax.

Michael used to be a Jehovah Witness but he celebrated Christmas and birthdays in his later years living at Neverland and at Carolwood Dr. This means he does not practice the faith of Jehovah Witness. I know the kids said they are going to Jehovah Witness church, but this is, I believe a respect to Katherine, who is still a Jehovah Witness. If a member of my family asks me to join them and they are not my faith, I can go as a respect to them. The kids need to follow what their grandmother does because she is the one officially in charge of them.Michael is supposed to not be here anymore and they cant really officially follow his beliefs when they live with Katherine.

Nothing about the memorial and funeral was Jehovah Witness either.

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:24 am

posted by Nimue on Friday, July 22nd 2011

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I will have to disagree. Michael is very much so into numbers. The "777" on his lion shirt in This Is It (which wasnt on the shirt to begin with). Just as "666" represents the devil, "777" represents the good.

Michael has used numbers for a very long time, not only at the time just around his hoax.
Yes, Michael always said 7 was his lucky number and I remember at History video he wore the 777 on his armband.

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Michael used to be a Jehovah Witness but he celebrated Christmas and birthdays in his later years living at Neverland and at Carolwood Dr. This means he does not practice the faith of Jehovah Witness. I know the kids said they are going to Jehovah Witness church, but this is, I believe a respect to Katherine, who is still a Jehovah Witness. If a member of my family asks me to join them and they are not my faith, I can go as a respect to them. The kids need to follow what their grandmother does because she is the one officially in charge of them.Michael is supposed to not be here anymore and they cant really officially follow his beliefs when they live with Katherine.
Michael has been studing all kind of religions and "believes", he likes that. Michael also is a very spiritual person. My personal believe is that Michael would like that his children could be in touch with the Jehovah Witness, the faith where he started and helped him to be what he is.

He is not in any church but I think he respect the faith and believes and tries to live according to, but still he is not bound to all the rituals of the faith.

I may say the same about Katherine, not at the same extent, I remember reading that Jeovah witnesses don't wear jewwlry, but Katherine loves them and wears them. Michael use to buy jewerly to Katherine and she said that he only buy them because she likess.

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Nothing about the memorial and funeral was Jehovah Witness either.
I have to agree, the memorial or even the burial had nothing to do with Jehovah Witness.

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:28 am

posted by Nimue on Saturday, July 23rd 2011

More info about the company and the video they produced.

Director – Steve Cole
Posted in Leadership

In his sixteen years as a director, Steve Cole has amassed a wealth of experience, ranging through arts, music, history, profiles, observational docs, live studio, current affairs and investigative journalism. Since he joined Iambic in 1999, Steve has directed a number of award-winning programmes, including ‘Maria Callas – Living and Dying for Art and Love’ (BBC2/4), ‘The Michael Jackson Story’ (ITV1) ‘Wallace & Gromit Go Chicken (BBC1) and ‘Greta Garbo – A Lone Star’ (ITV), thus contributing to making Iambic Media a high profile leader in its field. He was also co-director of ‘The Winner Takes It All’ for ITV, the BAFTA nominated profile of the Swedish super-group ABBA.


The Michael Jackson Story:

The Michael Jackson Story (2003) (TV)
Directed by
Steve Cole


It is interesting that the series is registered as from 2003 but Michael in the cast appears as "archive footage".

CEO, US – Eric Bute
Posted in Leadership

Bute found immediate success within the advertising community, creating award winning campaigns that would gain him industry wide recognition and ultimately the position of Global Creative Director at Euro/RSCG, now the world’s fifth-largest agency network. While there, Bute worked with global brands such as Intel, Iomega and Cisco. The Intel campaign necessitated working with teams in seven countries, and managing a creative staff of over a hundred. Under his watch, the chip-makers business catapulted from $70 million to over $500 million in revenue. In the process, he helped make Intel one of the worlds most recognized brands by creating the first of many Super Bowl spots.

After winning multiple awards from top trade and mainstream organizations such as Communication Arts, The One Show, Print, Creativity, Adweek, and Advertising Age, Bute decided to do what he always did and followed his instincts. He had fallen in love with directing and wanted to continue doing so, while still having a hand in creating the advertising. So, in 2000 he and Jim Rutherford started Global Live. One can make an argument that it is Bute’s storytelling ability and his creative prowess, that keeps clients making their way to the company’s Santa Monica location.


more at:

http://www.globalliveeventsuk.com/category/leadership

oooppss.. I forgot, another video about the series:



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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:28 am

posted by GailShaw on Saturday, July 23rd 2011

This is great reading,how you all break this down.Thank-you

I was just trying to figure the reasoning behind this Thriller announcement.So I guess we'll have to wait to hear from the family have up their sleeve.....

Also the when I try to look at this link,says page not found,with a message as to why.....

http://vimeo.com/20855213......

Also thank-you for the video The Michael Jackson Story.

Also I find it interesting that everything seems to be about 'Thriller',like the the recent auction,with the auctionning off of The Thriller Jacket

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:31 am

posted by Nimue on Saturday, July 23rd 2011

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This is great reading,how you all break this down.Thank-you
I was just trying to figure the reasoning behind this Thriller announcement.So I guess we'll have to wait to hear from the family have up their sleeve.....
Yes, me too. I tried to find out about the company behind this and see if we could find something else, but I guess we will have to wait.

I also tried to see if I could find any bound of them with Sony, AEG or News Corp, but I couldn't find a direct link other than work they have done.

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Also the when I try to look at this link,says page not found,with a message as to why.....
http://vimeo.com/20855213......
This is really weird. This video was there for ages and now it says:

"Sorry, "The Michael Jackson Story" was deleted at 4:04:30 Fri Jul 22, 2011. Vimeo has removed or disabled access to the following material as a result of a third-party notification by International Federation of the Phonographic Industry claiming that this material is infringing: The Michael Jackson Story. We have no more information about it on our mainframe or elsewhere."

The video was at right side of their page before Abbas video:

http://www.globalliveeventsuk.com/

Now it is gone from their page too.

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Also thank-you for the video The Michael Jackson Story.
You are welcome dear. It has 12 parts but I didn't find all of them.

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Also I find it interesting that everything seems to be about 'Thriller',like the the recent auction,with the auctionning off of The Thriller Jacket
A lot of coincidences. I am keeping my hopes low that all may be nothing and I don't want build up any expectations. So, far I couldn't find any statement from MJ estate about it. I would like to see what the estate would say about it, since this time Joe and Jermaine seem not to be involved on it.

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:32 am

posted by GailShaw on Saturday, July 23rd 2011

Yes Nimue thats an interesting point about Joe and Jermaine,considering what Jermaine had planned late in 2009 with The Vienna Tribute that ended up cancelled....my thoughts about that were there cannot be any profiting if you are still ALIVE....

Yes there is no point in getting our hopes up,there is still along way to go yet in this investigation,and yes not a word from the Estate...to date.

Yes how strange was that video...here one day gone the next.

Like the choice of name GLOBAL LIVE EVENT...

So we'll just have to sit tight and Keep Watching.....

Cheers,I appreciate your replies
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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:35 am

posted by The Fairy on Saturday, July 23rd 2011

Nimue wrote:
This is really weird. This video was there for ages and now it says: "Sorry, "The Michael Jackson Story" was deleted at 4:04:30 Fri Jul 22, 2011. Vimeo has removed or disabled access to the following material as a result of a third-party notification by International Federation of the Phonographic Industry claiming that this material is infringing: The Michael Jackson Story. We have no more information about it on our mainframe or elsewhere."The video was at right side of their page before Abbas video:http://www.globalliveeventsuk.com/

Now it is gone from their page too.
I have had vids blocked directly by SONY but I also have had some blocked through "third party notification", which is always more interesting to find out who the third party might be. In this case it is "IFPI", which is:



IFPI represents the recording industry worldwide, with a membership comprising some 1400 record companies in 66 countries and affiliated industry associations in 45 countries. IFPI's mission is to promote the value of recorded music, safeguard the rights of record producers and expand the commercial uses of recorded music in all markets where its members operate.

Now the IFPI has members worldwide and the biggest one representing American interests is RIAA; which is

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) is a trust that represents the recording industry distributors in the United States. Its members consist of record labels and distributors, which the RIAA say "create, manufacture and/or distribute approximately 85% of all legitimate sound recordings produced and sold in the United States"

Those who remember my vid about Walter Yetnikoff (SONY) will remember his connection to organized crime and the Gambino family.

And that RIAA wanted to investigate the link between independent promotors (indies) to the Gambino family and Yetnikoff opposed to this.

Whoever posted the vid in question got RIAA and IFPI on their back. In order for them to know, someone must have informed them. Question is who?

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:35 am

posted by MaryJo on Saturday, July 23rd 2011

My comment: Just a thought, but wouldnt Mike want to make his comeback before this tribute takes place??

I understand there are tributes for living people, but the family has already said hes passed so the tribute is geared around them saying hes passed. This tribute is for charity purposes, how could he possibly comeback after this tribute?

If he did comeback after, this would be family misleading the public for charitable purposes...thats pretty messed up.

Legally maybe he could do it, but the media will be on this like stuff on a stick.

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Nimue wrote:
This is really weird. This video was there for ages and now it says: "Sorry, "The Michael Jackson Story" was deleted at 4:04:30 Fri Jul 22, 2011. Vimeo has removed or disabled access to the following material as a result of a third-party notification by International Federation of the Phonographic Industry claiming that this material is infringing: The Michael Jackson Story. We have no more information about it on our mainframe or elsewhere."The video was at right side of their page before Abbas video:http://www.globalliveeventsuk.com/

Now it is gone from their page too.
I have had vids blocked directly by SONY but I also have had some blocked through "third party notification", which is always more interesting to find out who the third party might be. In this case it is "IFPI", which is:

IFPI represents the recording industry worldwide, with a membership comprising some 1400 record companies in 66 countries and affiliated industry associations in 45 countries. IFPI's mission is to promote the value of recorded music, safeguard the rights of record producers and expand the commercial uses of recorded music in all markets where its members operate.

Now the IFPI has members worldwide and the biggest one representing American interests is RIAA; which is

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) is a trust that represents the recording industry distributors in the United States. Its members consist of record labels and distributors, which the RIAA say "create, manufacture and/or distribute approximately 85% of all legitimate sound recordings produced and sold in the United States"
Those who remember my vid about Walter Yetnikoff (SONY) will remember his connection to organized crime and the Gambino family.
And that RIAA wanted to investigate the link between independent promotors (indies) to the Gambino family and Yetnikoff opposed to this.
Whoever posted the vid in question got RIAA and IFPI on their back. In order for them to know, someone must have informed them. Question is who?
Maybe Michael Jackson Estate is blocking.
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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:43 am

posted by shadow1026 on Saturday, July 23rd 2011

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My comment: Just a thought, but wouldnt Mike want to make his comeback before this tribute takes place??
I was thinking the same thing! Jermaine keeps tweeting the "TRUTH has to be known, the JUSTICE will take place." I keep thinking he is referring to the TRUTH will be that "Mike is alive".

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I understand there are tributes for living people, but the family has already said hes passed so the tribute is geared around them saying hes passed. This tribute is for charity purposes, how could he possibly comeback after this tribute?

If he did comeback after, this would be family misleading the public for charitable purposes...thats pretty messed up.

Legally maybe he could do it, but the media will be on this like stuff on a stick.
I agree with all the points you have made above.

If he came back after the tribute or the trial, it would not rub well with the fans and media. Also, it may be illegal, if it's purpose was misleading the fans to profit for a charity; not mentioning it's illegal to put someone on trial for manslaughter when there's no death.

I'm wondering if this really is a tribute? The press said they only hinted it was a "thrilling event". I can't see Mike walking on stage and saying "Hello, look at me, I'm alive". Then again, Mike likes shock!

I'm also wondering if the kids will participate in the 'thrilling event" or be showing their "zombie' skit ?


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Maybe Michael Jackson Estate is blocking.

Hmmmm!

I can't wait to hear what the estate will be saying in regards to this "supposed tribute".

Sorry to change the subject, but i just thought of something. If I don't ask the question now, I'll forget to do so later.

Latoya mentioned lastnight on the Joy Baher show that mike almost had 100% rights to his catalogue back, but then he dies. Could it be possible, Mike has full control back now of the catalogue?
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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 7:45 am

posted by MaryJo on Saturday, July 23rd 2011

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Hmmmm!

I can't wait to hear what the estate will be saying in regards to this "supposed tribute".

Sorry to change the subject, but i just thought of something. If I don't ask the question now, I'll forget to do so later.

Latoya mentioned lastnight on the Joy Baher show that mike almost had 100% rights to his catalogue back, but then he dies. Could it be possible, Mike has full control back now of the catalogue?
If this is the case, wouldnt it be manipulation thru fake death? Mike having full control back becuz of his death wouldnt he have to give it back when he comes back??

I'm not an attorney but it seems like it would be the same thing as him profiting from his death.

How can it be legal if / when he comes back, for him to keep anything he gained after his death??

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 10:01 am

posted by Nimue on Saturday, July 23rd 2011

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If this is the case, wouldnt it be manipulation thru fake death? Mike having full control back becuz of his death wouldnt he have to give it back when he comes back??

I'm not an attorney but it seems like it would be the same thing as him profiting from his death.
How can it be legal if / when he comes back, for him to keep anything he gained after his death??
I said something about this in another thread. MJ estate, better, the Living Trust Fund, has 100% of control of MJJac catalog and 50% of control of Beatles catalog at Sony/ATV.

MJ estate exists before any "death", it just has been run by the executors now.

When we are talking about the use of what is under the MJ estate we are talking about the use of a brand. The brand can be used if the person is alive or dead, it is just a brand.

If we pay attention, closely MJ estate never uses things like "for the aniversary of the death", tribute for the death", nothing like this. The releases has not R.I.P and they are credits to Michael Jackson like he had done it himself.

Even the FanFest, is mentioned as something that Michael as business man "started".

They are using the brand, just business.

Now the tribute, this can be related to the estate or not and we have to wait to see what the estate says about it. It all depends in how the profit from it will be used.

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 10:03 am

posted by MaryJo on Saturday, July 23rd 2011

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I said something about this in another thread. MJ estate, better, the Living Trust Fund, has 100% of control of MJJac catalog and 50% of control of Beatles catalog at Sony/ATV.MJ estate exists before any "death", it just has been run by the executors now.When we are talking about the use of what is under the MJ estate we are talking about the use of a brand. The brand can be used if the person is alive or dead, it is just a brand.If we pay attention, closely MJ estate never uses things like "for the aniversary of the death", tribute for the death", nothing like this. The releases has not R.I.P and they are credits to Michael Jackson like he had done it himself.Even the FanFest, is mentioned as something that Michael as business man "started".They are using the brand, just business.Now the tribute, this can be related to the estate or not and we have to wait to see what the estate says about it. It all depends in how the profit from it will be used.
My comment: In the article Fairy posted:
Michael Jackson Show Will Be Global Smash, Say Promoters

"The King of Pop's mother Katherine and his siblings Marlon, Tito, Jackie and La Toya are working with officials at promotion company Global Live Events to stage a spectacular show in honour of the late star."


My comment: the family is promoting the tribute under the "in honour of the LATE STAR". IDK how the law distinguishes between Michael the STAR vs Michael the Man.

OR

Even if there is any legal differences between the two. Maybe legally they are the same entity.

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 10:04 am

posted by Nimue on Saturday, July 23rd 2011

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My comment: In the article Fairy posted:
Michael Jackson Show Will Be Global Smash, Say Promoters

"The King of Pop's mother Katherine and his siblings Marlon, Tito, Jackie and La Toya are working with officials at promotion company Global Live Events to stage a spectacular show in honour of the late star."

My comment: the family is promoting the tribute under the "in honour of the LATE STAR". IDK how the law distinguishes between Michael the STAR vs Michael the Man.OREven if there is any legal differences between the two. Maybe legally they are the same entity.
We have to wait to see how this comes out. We also don't know if what was printed it was what was said by the family or "the late star" came from the media interpretation.

Michael was the first one to create a "brand" out of his name, and a "brand" it is just a thing. We will have to wait to get more details about this "tribute", "the thrilling event".

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If he came back after the tribute or the trial, it would not rub well with the fans and media. Also, it may be illegal, if it's purpose was misleading the fans to profit for a charity; not mentioning it's illegal to put someone on trial for manslaughter when there's no death.
Something you said here reminded me of one of Fairy's videos where she defines the charges and I looked for the references. I decided to take a look at the charge itself, to see more details.

We don't know what will happen, but for sure after reading about it maybe be wonder, why this specific charge was chosen. Some parts that I read:

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Involuntary manslaughter is the unlawful killing of another human being without intent. The absence of the intent element is the essential difference between voluntary and involuntary manslaughter. Also in most states, involuntary manslaughter does not result from a heat of passion but from an improper use of reasonable care or skill while in the commission of a lawful act or while in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to a felony.
So far it is ok, digging a little bit further:

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At Common Law, as well as under current statutes, the offense can be either voluntary or Involuntary Manslaughter. The main difference between the two is that voluntary manslaughter requires an intent to kill or cause serious bodily harm while involuntary manslaughter does not.

Generally there are two types of involuntary manslaughter: (1) criminal-negligence manslaughter; and (2) unlawful-act manslaughter. The first occurs when death results from a high degree of Negligence or recklessness, and the second occurs when death is caused by one who commits or attempts to commit an unlawful act, usually a misdemeanor.

Under one such statute, the offense is defined as the commission of a lawful act without proper caution or requisite skill, in which one unguardedly or undesignedly kills another or the commission of an unlawful act that is not felonious or tends to inflict great bodily harm.
As far as I understood, and Fairy can help here the unlawful-act is also involutary manslaughter..So let's take a look..

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Unlawful-Act Manslaughter In many states, unlawful-act manslaughter is committed when death results from an act that is likely to cause death or serious physical harm to another person

n some states, a distinction is made between conduct that is malum in se, bad in itself and conduct that is malum prohibitum, bad because prohibited by law. In these states, the act that causes the death must be malum in se and a felony in order for the offense to constitute manslaughter. If the act is malum prohibitum, there is no manslaughter unless it was foreseeable that death would be a direct result of the act. In other states that similarly divide the offense, the crime is committed even though the act was malum prohibitum and a misdemeanor, especially if the unlawful act was in violation of a statute that was intended to prevent injury to other persons.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/manslaughter

I am not a lawyer but in the definition invonlutary manslaughter it is mostly but not always when the death occurs: "tends to inflict great bodily harm"

I think I will pay more attention to Murray's charges looking for another angle now, not the killing or death but "to inflict great bodily harm".

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PostSubject: Re: Jackson Family MJ Tribute Concert   4th November 2013, 10:12 am

posted by Nimue on Monday, July 25th 2011

The official page at:

http://home.michaelforevertribute.com/home.html



See you in October???

In the middle of Murray's trial?

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