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PostSubject: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 12:31 am

Here is the opening statements to the Wrongful Death Lawsuit against AEG and the witnesses for the plaintiffs: Katherine Jackson and family

Monday 04/29/13: First day of trial

Brian Panish, attorney for the plaintiffs

Panish, who will deliver the Jacksons' opening statement Monday morning, said he was not sure who his first witness will be Tuesday morning. He did tell the court he will show several videos of the depositions given by AEG's top executives in the first week.

Panish and AEG's Putnam will each have two and a half hours to describe their cases to the jury in opening statements starting at 10 a.m. Monday.

The witness lists include many members of the Jackson family, including matriarch Katherine Jackson. Other celebrity witnesses on the list are Sharon Osbourne, Quincy Jones, Spike Lee, Ray Parker Jr., Lisa Marie Presley, Diana Ross and Lou Ferrigno.




Source: Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP

Katherine Jackson, Randy and Rebbie just entered the courtroom. Several lawyers, bodyguards and sheriffs escorted the family.
"We love you too," Mrs. Jackson said to a fan on way in.

Judge Yvette Palazuelos is not allowing live tweets from the courtroom. We'll bring you all the details of the trial as soon as we can

Courtroom is filled to capacity. Dr. Conrad Murray's appellate lawyer, Valerie Wass, is also present. She says her client is innocent!

AEG denies any wrongdoing, saying they haven't even hired Dr. Conrad Murray. They claim Michael Jackson was the one who hired the doctor

When Katherine Jackson walked the hallway, some MJ fans told her: "We love you, Mrs. Jackson" and she replied "We love you more!"

Randy and Rebbie walked the front door of the courthouse. You can watch all the coverage on @ABC7 Eyewitness News at 11am, 4, 5, 6, 11pm PT

Jury walking into the courtroom now. Opening statements to begin shortly.

From outside the hallway through a little windows on the courtroom's door I see presentation of MJ's video; mention of Pepsi commercial

@TrueNewsZone Live tweeting from inside the courtroom is prohibited. We're tweeting from the hallway. Wink

Hummm…. ABC News talking to a hoax blogger..


Brian Panish, attorney for the Jacksons, is showing a video presentation to the jury. There was a slide showing drug Demerol.

There's a slide up now showing the relationship between Michael Jackson & Dr. Conrad Murray. Jury to decide who hired Dr. Murray: AEG or MJ?

Panish showing slide of drug Propofol. It says MJ was given the powerful anesthetic almost daily for six months

elke hassell ‏@ElkeHassell 2h

LET THERE BE ONE MORE FICTITIOUS 6 APPEAR (6 BOTTLES WINE, 6 MONTHS OF PROPOFOL) THAN WE KNOW THAT EVIL IS BEHIND THIS. @666


LunaJo67 ‏@LunaJo67 2h

@ElkeHassell@666 Michael Jackson civil trial jury of 6 men and 6 women being seated in courtroom now; 6 alternates as well

Panish showed jurors slide of the agreement between MJ and AEG, that AEG was to provide "producers" for the tour.

Dr. Conrad Murray' appellate attorney, Valerie Wass, tells @abc7 if doc will testify. Watch her on Eyewitness News pic.twitter.com/YD6ySkvJOD

For those interested, AEG attorney Marvin Putnam said this morning that they’re not contesting Jackson’s death.

“Clearly Mr. Jackson died.” _ AEG attorney Marvin Putnam. Last week, plaintiffs tried to make point AEG wasn’t conceding Jackson was dead.

AEG's attorney said Jacksons attorneys handed them 200 slides improperly labeled. It was slides the plaintiffs wanted to use during opening

Defense challenged plaintiffs slide that's says "It's undisputed that Michael Jackson loved his kids."

Judge said she wants to find out if Dr. Conrad Murray will testify. He's on both of witnesses list. Defense said they intent to call him

Plaintiffs say the claimed Jacksons' statements of damages, $40 billion, is attorneys calculation, not the assertion by Jackson family

Plaintiffs say the amount of $40 billion is only a notification to defendants as to their amount of exposure.

Defense says it is disputed whether there was a meeting of the minds about a supposed contract with Dr. Murray.

The courtroom was sooooo jam packed, it felt like a sardine can! Attorneys had to climb out of their seats to approach the judge!

Katherine, Randy and Rebbie sat in the first row. Panish said MJ was an athlete and a dancer and over time there was wear and tear
Panish: there's no dispute MJ went to various doctors for Demerol. He also had problems with sleep and sought Propofol.

Panish: Propofol doesn't provide restful sleep. Many doctors would not give him Propofol at home, since it needed equipment, crash cart

Panish: his family believes he had problems w/ prescription meds. The only ones who will say they never heard anything about it is AEG

Panish: the evidence will show in April Dr. Murray stockpiled Propofol in anticipation of treating Michael for the tour.

Panish: the evidence will show that Conrad Murray had an oral contract with AEG.

Panish: MJ would get daily doses of Propofol for six weeks in May and June, leading up to his death

Hummm   6 again


Panish: LAPD searched Dr. Murray's car and found a business card, an envelope and a contract between AEG and Dr. Murray

The business card was of Brandon Phillips, the CEO for AEG.

Jermaine audio talking about the lawsuit. He says Michael Joe... and

http://jacksonsource.tumblr.com/post/49186752525/jermaine-talks-about-the-jacksons-vs-aeg-court


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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 12:36 am

posted by Nimue on Monday, April 29th 2013 @ 2:57 PM

Opening statements begin in Jackson death trial

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Concert giant AEG Live failed in its duty to properly investigate the doctor who treated Michael Jackson because it was concerned about its own fortunes, an attorney for the singer's mother told a jury Monday morning.

"His stirring voice, his musical genius, his creativity and his generosity and his huge heart was extinguished forever," attorney Brian Panish said in opening statements of a civil lawsuit filed over Jackson's June 2009 death. Katherine Jackson is suing AEG claiming it failed to properly investigate the doctor convicted of involuntary manslaughter over Jackson's death.

"You're going to hear the whole story about what happened in the death of Michael Jackson," Panish said.

Panish made his remarks in an opening presentation filled with slides detailing the case against AEG, which was promoting Jackson's planned comeback concerts, "This Is It."

Jackson's mother, brother Randy and sister Rebbie sat in the front row of the courtroom as Panish detailed aspects of Jackson's life.

An attorney for AEG is expected to begin addressing the panel later Monday.

Millions, and possibly billions, of dollars are at stake. A jury of six men and six women will determine any damage award.

Katherine Jackson sued the company in September 2010, claiming it failed to properly investigate former physician Conrad Murray before allowing him to serve as Jackson's tour doctor. She is also suing on behalf of her son's three children, Prince, Paris and Blanket.

AEG denies it hired Murray and its attorneys have said they could not have foreseen the circumstances that led to Jackson's death at age 50. A jury convicted Murray of giving Jackson a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol in 2011. The hospital-grade anesthetic was being administered as a sleep aid.

Panish told jurors they would be putting together a puzzle, with three pieces being Jackson, Murray and AEG Live.

He told the panel that Jackson suffered from addiction to prescription medications and Demerol at times during his life, and the problem increased when he was keeping up a rigorous schedule. Panish cited a 1984 accident that injured Jackson during a Pepsi commercial suit as causing the singer tremendous physical pain throughout his life.

"Over the years Michael family's and people who knew him believed he had a problem with prescription medication," Panish told jurors. He said the only group that would claim they didn't know about Jackson's addiction issues were AEG and its executives.

The lawyer showed a brief clip of Jackson rehearing for the "This Is It" shows and a clip of the singer dancing in the early stages of his presentation. He also showed footage of 1999 show in Munich in which Jackson was performing when a bridge dropped 50 feet with the singer on it. Despite pain, Jackson continued performing, Panish said.

Panish said Jackson turned to Demerol to relieve his pain.

Panish also detailed Murray's money problems, including an impending foreclosure and other debts. AEG also had issues as well, the lawyer told jurors, saying the company was feeling intense pressure from concert promoter Live Nation.

He said AEG saw the Jackson shows as a way to make a lot of money and better compete with Live Nation.

He said the company was so concerned with getting Jackson to perform, "They didn't care who got lost in the wash."

Jurors listened intently to Panish's presentation, and a couple nodded their head as the attorney detailed Jackson's achievements, including his Super Bowl appearances, successful concert tours and other milestones.

Panish also showed jurors several emails between key AEG executives discussing Jackson's condition in the months before his death.

The lawyer displayed a March 2009 email before a press conference featuring Jackson, in which AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips wrote to the former CEO of AEG'S parent company, Tim Leiweke, that Jackson was drunk and refusing to address fans.

"This is the scariest thing I have ever seen," Phillips wrote Lieweke. "He is an emotionally paralyzed mess riddled with self-loathing and doubt now that it's show time. He's scared to death."

Panish said Jackson's behavior was just one of several warning signs that the company ignored before MJ's death.

Jackson's mother and his two oldest children, Prince and Paris, are listed as possible witnesses. An AEG attorney said Monday that the company intends to call Murray as a witness.

Murray did not testify at his criminal trial.

Panish told jurors they would have to determine who was responsible for Jackson's death.

"Michael paid the ultimate price. He died," Panish said. "Michael has taken responsibility."

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/opening-statements-begin-jackson-civil-case
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 12:40 am

posted by Nimue on Monday, April 29th 2013 @ 4:35 PM


ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts

Panish in his opening: AEG had a problem. They were not number 1 in the concert business. Live Nation was. They wanted to catch up



Opening statements: Brian Panish (attorney for KJ)


AEG lawyer: 'Ugly stuff' to come in Michael Jackson death trial


Los Angeles (CNN) -- AEG Live's lawyer warned jurors that "we're going to show some ugly stuff" as he began the defense's opening statement in the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial Monday.

The concert promoter has no choice because it must defend itself from the accusation that it is responsible for Jackson's death, Marvin Putnam said.


Before Putnam began, a Jackson lawyer had played for the jury a sentimental song the pop icon wrote and recorded for his three children titled "You Are My Life."

"You are the sun, you make me shine more like the stars that twinkle at night,

You are the moon that glows in my heart,

You're my day time, my nighttime,

My world. You are my life."

Katherine Jackson, his mother, wiped tears from her face as her late son's soft voice filled the small courtroom.

And so begins what promises to be three months of dramatic revelations and legal fireworks in a trial that could last several months.

AEG Live executives are "ruthless guys" who ignored Michael Jackson's health problems and his doctor's ethical conflicts, which led to the pop icon's death, a Jackson family lawyer argued Monday.

Jurors earning $15 a day will decide whether one of the world's largest entertainment companies should pay Jackson's mother and three children billions of dollars for its liability in the pop icon's death.

Randy and Rebbie Jackson, Michael's siblings, were with their mother in the front row, just a few feet away from jurors.

"There will be no question in your mind that they were ruthless and they wanted to be No. 1 at all cost," Jackson lawyer Brian Panish said.

AEG executives knew that Jackson was emotionally and physically weak, Panish told jurors.

Jackson was in an "obvious sharp decline" in the weeks after Murray began working as his personal doctor while he prepared for his comeback concerts.

Another warning sign should have been that Murray asked for $5 million for the job and eventually agreed on $150,000 a month, Panish said. Another doctor had told AEG he would do the job for $40,000 a month as long as Jackson was "clean," meaning not on drugs, he said.

Panish played for the jury a video of an AEG expert who agreed that Murray's pay demand was "outrageous."

"That raised red flag because it was an enormous sum of money," defense expert Marty Hom said.

"AEG ignored the obvious red flags, and they hired Dr. Murray," Panish said.

Later in the trial, jurors will hear Michael's oldest son and daughter describe their father's last days. But they will also endure weeks of testimony from medical and financial experts offering opinions about the singer's health, addiction and career.

Only 16 journalists and a few members of the public will be allowed inside the courtroom because many of its 45 seats are reserved for parties involved in the trial, including the Jackson family. Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos denied CNN's request to televise the trial.

Pretrial hearings have featured angry and personal exchanges between lawyers for the two sides, made more intense by the intimacy of the tiny courtroom.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/29/showbiz/jackson-death-trial-opens/index.html?sr=sharebar_twitter
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements   16th September 2013, 12:50 am

posted by Nimue on Monday, April 29th 2013 @ 7:43 PM



Opening statements: Brian Panish (attorney for KJ)


Panish: there was no risk to AEG, since the production (of the tour) would be secured by MJ's assets, which included the Sony catalog

Panish: "he is 50 but he's going to dance his ass off."

Panish: the mindset of AEG was that the show must go on. He said jury will have to decide on who to believe.

Panish described to the jury a series of emails where AEG executives talk about backing off the show would be a disaster.

Panish said they wrote to each other that MJ made to the This is It press conference but was locked in his room

Panish continues saying the execs wrote that MJ was emotionally paralyzed, mess riddled with self loathing and doubt. He is scared to death

Panish: evidence will show MJ requested a doctor... plus opiates. Paul Gongaware talked to Dr. Murray and closes the deal.

Panish showed a clip of Gongaware saying they didn't investigate Dr. Murray and he had no supervision.

Panish showed the jury an email from Gongaware: "We want to remind him (Dr. Murray) that AEG, not MJ, who is paying his salary".

Email continues: "We want him (Dr. Murray) to understand what it's expected of him."

Panish showed email from Kenny Ortega: "MJ didn't have a good Friday, he's not in great physical shape, I believe he's hurting."

Jackson tweet flurry starts now, with stuff that happened after lunch break posted first.

After lunch, Katherine Jackson’s attorney Brian Panish plays portion of deposition of Paul Gongaware (AEG executive.)

Questioning focused on Gongaware email to choreographer\creative director Kenny Ortega about Murray and MJ.

“We want to remind him that it is AEG, not MJ who is paying his salary.” _ Gongaware email to Kenny Ortega.

Gongaware repeatedly said he didn’t remember the email or recall what it meant.

Panish also walked jury through Kenny Ortega emails shown to criminal jury in Conrad Murray case.

Email re: Murray’s strip club visits were redacted for jury. Mention of clubs scrubbed for the panel.

“Conrad is nuts. Remind me to tell you about his visits (redaction) the week MJ died.” _ Randy Phillips after MJ’s death.

Randy Jackson put his arm around his mother as the note was shown, read to jury.

Kenny email: "my concern now is that we brought the doctor in the fold and have played tough love... He appeared quite weak and fatigued"


Ortega to Phillips: there are strong signs of panic, anxiety and obsessive-like behavior. I think the very best is to hire a psychiatrist

Phillips to Ortega: his (MJ) doctor is extremely successful (we checked everyone out) and does not need this gig, he's unbiased & ethical

Phillips to Ortega: you cannot imagine the harm and ramifications of stopping the show now.

Panish said AEG executives lied, since they didn't check Dr. Murray, who was in financial distress. But AEG wanted the show to go on.

Phillips email after meeting at MJ's house: doctor was fantastic and I think Kenny's hysteria will be in check once MJ was alert/attentive

Panish said AEG had $17.5 million in insurance and before MJ does they were trying to secure more insurance.

Email when AEG was putting together This is it movie: make sure we take out shots of MJ in red jacket... He looks too thin, skeletal

Panish then showed a handwritten letter MJ wrote for Katherine Jackson. It's called "Mother, My Guardian Angel."

Panish told jurors they are not looking for sympathy, they were looking for the truth and justice.

Panish: no 1 will come here and say MJ wasn't a great father. Atty played a song Michael wrote 2 his kids called "A beautiful thing to see"

Panish said MJ made his kids wear masks because he didn't want his children to be recognized.

Panish said defendants made up that the family was trying to recover $40 billion in special damages. He says it's $1.5 billion economic loss

Panish: AEG hired him (Dr. Murray), AEG was going to pay Murray. They didn't pay him because they stiffed him.

Panish said Dr. Murray signed the contract the day before MJ died. AEG had not signed it yet, but said it was not unusual to work without 1

Panish: they took advantage of a sick man. No doctor ever gave MJ Propofol at home until Dr. Murray. AEG needs to pay the price.




Opening statements: Marvin Putnam (attorney for AEG)


Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP


Marvin Putnam, attorney for AEG, did the opening statements for the defendants. He began introducing his team and AEG executives.

Putnam: evidence is going to show public MJ was very different from private MJ. MJ erected a wall between him and his family, staff
Putnam said MJ kept his public and private life separated. He had 40 years to perfect that; he learned very well the cost of being exposed

Putnam: we're going to show you some ugly stuff. Why? AEG Live, Paul Gongaware, Randy Phillips were sued, it's not going to be pretty

The bad guys are not happy

Putnam said it took 2 months to find out what caused MJ's death. MJ had died of overdose of something called Propofol.

Putnam: as with MJ's life, MJ's death was anything but typical. Death was classified as homicide, Murray found guilty of manslaughter




After mid-afternoon break, Putnam discussed Jackson’s finances. Detailed lavishness of Neverland Ranch.

He also showed jury a chart showing Jackson was nearly $400 million in debt by the time he died.

Chase would testify that MJ left the meeting at Carrolwood house, and that a vase was broken during meeting, Panish said.

Putnam told jury MJ was like many Americans who overspent in the 2000s. But Putnam says MJ’s spending was different.

“This is not a financial difficulty. $400 million is terrifying,” Putnam said. “And AEG didn’t know that.”

Putnam also spent time introducing jury to AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips and Concerts West Co-CEO Paul Gongaware.

On Phillips, Putnam says he deals with talent. Uses bad language, tells bad jokes, “is a very good schmoozer.”

Gongaware is a behind-the-scenes, technical guy who doesn’t have an office at AEG’s LA office, Putnam says.

Gongaware made travel arrangements for Jackson’s “Dangerous” tour, but not a bigwig on tour, Putnam says.

“Dangerous” tour was cut short over Jackson’s addiction issues, both attorneys told the jury today.

Putnam also tells jurors that contract between AEG and Jackson didn't require him to show up to rehearsals.

“These agreements are never about going to rehearsal, they’re about shows.” _ Putnam tells panel.

He says issue of when Jackson rehearsed was between him and his creative team, i.e. Kenny Ortega.
Putnam a couple time urged jury to wait to make any decisions about the case until defense starts presenting its case.

He concedes that’s a long way off _ Katherine Jackson’s attorneys get the first word and will be presenting evidence for weeks.

He also tells jury to keep in mind how money on the tour worked -- some talent, staffers paid in advance against Jackson’s payments.

Murray’s payments would have come out of Jackson’s payments for “This Is It” tour, Putnam tells jury.

Putnam also showed jury contracts for Murray’s work on the tour. Notes Murray signed June 24 version, but MJ didn’t.

Can anyone on propofol sign anything? Hehehe


AEG attorney played portion of Conrad Murray’s interview with LAPD regarding his understanding of his employment.

Putnam told jury that LAPD interview _ 2 days after Jackson died _ shows Murray considered himself an employee of Jackson

“I am an employee for Michael Jackson but paid through AEG. “ _ Murray told police on June 27, 2009.

It seems Putnam cut off the part of the interview Murray says he was going to be paid by AEG…

Around 4:25 p.m., Putnam found out he had 50 mins of opening statements left. Judge told him he had ‘til 5 p.m. “Talk fast,” judge said.

Putnam told jury after MJ’s 1993 rehab announcement, Jackson concealed painkiller addiction.

At one point, Putnam showed a slide labeled “Doctor Shopping” that featured 45 doctors or med professionals who AEG says treated MJ.

One of the people on the list was Jackson’s ex-wife, Debbie Rowe. (Couldn’t make out all the names.)

Putnam focused on Rowe for a bit, saying that she was aware of Jackson’s propofol use as far back as the 1990s.

Defense openings went through various doctors who say Jackson asked for propofol, including Dr. Metzger and Cherilyn Lee.

Putnam said he wasn't going to talk about damages, because he said he didn't believe there were any.

But then he showed info showing that Katherine Jackson's attorneys gave gave AEG estimating $40.2 billion in damages.

"It’s going to be awhile before I talk again. I hope I don’t talk this quick again.” _ Putnam as he wrapped up his opening remarks.


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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 12:55 am

posted by Nimue on Monday, April 29th 2013 @ 7:49 PM

Jackson's life recounted in opening of civil trial

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Michael Jackson's struggle against drug addiction was on display Monday during opening statements in his mother's wrongful death case against concert promoter AEG Live.

Competing portraits of Jackson emerged during the first hours of the trial, with Katherine Jackson's attorney acknowledging the pop star's drug problems while also trying to show he was a caring son and father.

"His stirring voice, his musical genius, his creativity and his generosity and his huge heart was extinguished forever," her lawyer, Brian Panish, said in his opening remarks.

AEG's attorney, Marvin S. Putnam, said that while Jackson's death was tragic, his guarded private life meant the company was unaware that he was using the powerful anesthetic propofol.

"The truth is, Michael Jackson fooled everyone," Putnam said. "He made sure that no one — nobody — knew his deepest, darkest secrets."

"This case is about personal choices," Putnam said about Jackson's decision to be treated by physician Conrad Murray. "Also, it was about his personal responsibility. There's no question that Michael Jackson's death was a terrible tragedy.

"I believe the evidence will show it was not a tragedy of AEG Live's making," Putnam said as he ended his opening statement. Testimony will begin Tuesday.

Panish said AEG created a conflict of interest for Murray and forced him to choose between a large payday and Jackson's care. He told the jury AEG was feeling competitive pressures and wanted the Jackson tour to work at all costs.

Putnam recounted the chaotic days following Jackson's death as investigators and the public tried to figure out how the singer died unexpectedly. He urged jurors to remember that propofol killed Jackson.

"One thing became very, very clear," Putnam said. "While the world may not have heard of propofol, Mr. Jackson certainly had. The evidence is going to show you that he had been using that drug for years and years."

He said jurors will hear from Jackson's ex-wife, Debbie Rowe, who would tell them that Jackson used the anesthetic in the 1990s.

"Mr. Jackson got very, very, good at hiding his addiction," Putnam said. "He didn't let anyone see it. Not his staff, not his children. This was the private Michael Jackson."

He said physician-patient confidentiality kept Jackson's reliance on propofol from becoming publicly known.

That extended to Murray as well. "He couldn't tell anyone about the propofol use," Putnam said of the former cardiologist.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/opening-statements-begin-jackson-civil-case

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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 1:05 am

posted by Nimue on Tuesday, April 30th 2013 @ 4:56 AM



Watch what she says at 5:00 mark.

Wondering...Where is LaToya?

She was the one accusing Randy Phillips, now she is gone. Only Randy and Rebbie were at the court yesterday.

We could excuse Jerm, Tito, Marlon and Jackie, they are playing their gigs at AEG Live center at the moment. But it seems LaToya is around, why wasn't she there if she had so strong feelings about Randy Phillips?

Maybe the psychic has convinced her not to be part of it...

Wondering... This sounds much more a Randy thing than anything else. I wonder how much Randy's hand is on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements   16th September 2013, 1:12 am

posted by Nimue on Tuesday, April 30th 2013 @ 5:35 AM

ABC7 Court News ‏

Judge ordered attorneys to be there earlier to discuss two notes sent but jurors. Don't know the content of them.

First plaintiffs witness is LAPD detective Orlando Martinez. He's going to testify about his interview with Dr. Murray and who hired him



Jacksons vs AEG - Day 1 - April 29 2013 – Summary - Part 1

Hearing about Motions

First day of Jacksons vs. AEG trial started with Judge hearing motions about whether Michael Jackson's medical history will be made public and objections about opening statements. (LATimes &AP). AEG objected a slide that referenced Amy Winehouse, heavy redaction of an email that talked about Murray’s visit to strip clubs. Judge ordered changes to strip club mentions and removal of reference to Amy Winehouse (AP).

Jackson’s lawyers opposed AEG slide that mentioned $40 billion damages. Jackson lawyers stated $40 Billion figure was thrown out there to preserve Jackson family’s rights and not filed with court. Judge allowed AEG to show damages slide to jury (AP).

During the hearing Judge asked if Conrad Murray will testify. AEG said they intend to call Murray as a witness (ABC7).

Opening Statements

First day of trial were attended by Katherine, Randy and Rebbie Jackson; AEG Live CEO Shawn Trell. Conrad Murray’s appellate lawyer Valerie Wass was present and she said to media Murray is innocent (ABC7). 16 media and 2 fans were also in the courtroom.

Katherine sat in the front row with Randy on her left and Rebbie on her right (AP).

Jacksons Opening Statement


Jackson’s attorney Panish started his opening statement by showing a clip of MJ rehearsing for “This is it” (AP). Panish briefly went over MJ’s life stating "Performing since 6 years old; 44 years in show business." (LATimes).

Jackson attorney Panish said that Jackson's death from an overdose of the anesthetic propofol was caused by a combination of factors.

Panish : "Michael Jackson, Dr. Conrad Murray and AEG Live each played a part in the ultimate result, the death of Michael Jackson," (Reuters)

Panish told jurors they would be putting together a puzzle, with three pieces being Jackson, Murray and AEG Live.(CTVNews)

Panish: “Michael had a problem, Dr. Murray had a problem and AEG had a problem,” (LATimes)

At his opening statement Jackson’s attorney Panish heavily focused on MJ’s prescription medicine addiction (AP). Jackson’s lawyer Panish stated MJ had developed a problem with prescription medication and at times became “dependent” on the drugs. Panish said MJ’s drug problem started in 1984 when MJ suffered second and third-degree burns while filming a Pepsi commercial.
(LATimes)

Panish said MJ began taking Demerol after he was injured while filming a Pepsi commercial in 1984 (Reuters & CNS). Panish also stated that MJ also suffered from anxiety that “became more prevalent when he was going through a rigorous schedule.” (LATimes). Panish said there's no dispute MJ went to various doctors for Demerol and MJ also had problems with sleep and sought Propofol (ABC7).

"It was widely publicized Michael was dependent on pain killers," Panish said, adding that AEG Live should have been aware of the reports. (Reuters)

Jackson’s attorney Panish said MJ’s family and friends knew about MJ’s addiction problems and AEG is the only entity that claims to not know it (AP).

Panish detailed MJ’s prescription drug abuse history, saying the singer regularly used demerol and propofol, and that "people who knew him believed he had a problem with prescription medication."
(ABC)

“Michael Jackson’s family suspected he had a problem with prescription medication,” Panish conceded. (CNS)

Panish showed jury the contract between AEG and MJ (AP). Panish stated that evidence will show that AEG and Murray had an oral contract and Murray stockpiled Propofol in anticipation of treating Michael for the tour. Panish also stated that MJ would get daily doses of Propofol for six weeks in May and June, leading up to his death (ABC7).

Panish mentioned Murray’s problems and his debt. Jackson’s attorney showed a slide showing Murray owed back child support and facing foreclosure.

Panish also stated AEG had problems; they were feeling pressure from Live Nation (AP).

Jackson attorney Panish : "You know what AEG’s problem was? They were not No. 1 in the concert business but they wanted to be." “You don’t do that with white gloves,” Panish said. “You do what you gotta do if you want to be No. 1 in this rough business of concert promotions.”


Panish showed several emails between AEG Executives. One of them was an email about TII press conference Phillips wrote to Leiweke that MJ was drunk and refusing to address the fans. Phillips wrote: "This is the scariest thing I have ever seen. He is an emotionally paralyzed mess riddled with self-loathing and doubt now that it's show time. He's scared to death."(CBS).

Another email was Gongaware’s email to Kenny Ortega that said “We want to remind him that it is AEG, not MJ who is paying his salary”. In his deposition Gongaware repeatedly said he didn’t remember the email or recall what it meant (AP).

Another email was from Phillips after MJ’s death which said “Conrad is nuts. Remind me to tell you about his visits (redaction – strip clubs) the week MJ died.” (AP)

Another email is from when AEG was putting together This is it movie. Email says make sure we take out shots of MJ in red jacket... He looks too thin, skeletal (ABC7)

Panish described to the jury a series of emails where AEG executives talk about backing off the show would be a disaster (ABC7)

Panish told jury that Phillips lied about MJ’s health before he died, and after his death, “The deception by Mr. Phillips doesn't stop.” (AP).

Panish said Kai Chase would testify that meeting between AEG execs, Murray and MJ ended badly. Kai Chase will testify that MJ left the meeting at Carolwood house, meeting with Murray continued for hours after Jackson left and that a vase was broken during meeting (AP).


“There were no rules,” Panish told the jury, when it came to furthering AEG’s success. “It didn’t matter what it took. … AEG had a problem and they wanted to fix it and they didn’t care who got lost in the wash.” “Forget about helping Mr. Jackson. The show must go on.” (LATimes)

Panish "There will be no question in your mind that they were ruthless and they wanted to be No. 1 at all cost," (CNN).

Jackson’s attorney Panish stated that AEG ignored several red flags such as Murray initially asking for $5 Million and eventually agreeing on $150,000 per month (AP). Panish said another doctor had told AEG he would do the job for $40,000 a month as long as Jackson was "clean," meaning not on drugs (CNN). Panish also stated that AEG did not do a background check on Murray (AP).


Background checks would have revealed Murray was deeply in debt and was a cardiologist even though Jackson had no known heart issues, Panish said. (Reuters)

"When a red flag comes up, do you turn away or do you look into it?" Panish said. "AEG ignored the obvious red flags and they hired Dr. Murray." (Reuters)

Murray's "financial condition made him susceptible to pressure and created a conflict between his patient's needs and AEG's needs." (Eonline)

"They put Dr. Murray in a position where if he said Michael can't go or can't play, if he said I can't give you those drugs, then he doesn't get paid," (CNN)

Panish showed a clip of Gongaware’s deposition in which he said they didn't investigate Dr. Murray and he had no supervision (ABC7) Panish said AEG executives lied to Kenny Ortega when Phillips wrote to him “his (MJ) doctor is extremely successful (we checked everyone out) and does not need this gig, he's unbiased & ethical” since they didn't check Dr. Murray, who was in financial distress. But AEG wanted the show to go on (ABC7).

Panish described MJ as “a devoted son to his mother, Katherine Jackson, and a devoted father to his three children.” (CNS).

Panish played “You are my life”, a song MJ wrote for his children Prince, Paris and Blanket, and a note MJ had written for his mother Katherine. It's called "Mother, My Guardian Angel." (ABC7). The note said “All my success has been based on the fact that I wanted to make my mother proud, to win her smile of approval."(AP). The reading of the note brought tears to Katherine’s eyes (AP)


Jackson’s lawyer: "We're not looking for any sympathy... We're looking for truth and justice." (ABC&AP)

Panish said defendants made up that the family was trying to recover $40 billion in special damages. He says it's $1.5 billion economic loss (ABC7). Jackson’s attorney told the jurors that they would be the ones to assign liability for MJ’s death, but they should look at AEG's actions and not focus on MJ’s issues.(AP) Jackson’s lawyer Panish: AEG took advantage of a sick man. No doctor ever gave MJ Propofol at home until Dr. Murray. AEG needs to pay the price.(ABC7)

"Michael paid the ultimate price. He died," Panish said. "Michael has taken responsibility." (AP)

"His stirring voice, his musical genius, his creativity and his generosity and his huge heart was extinguished forever," Jackson’s lawyer Panish said in his opening remarks (AP).

My comment: People who knew Michael believed he had a problem with medication, however his family only suspected.

Very different story about the Riot Act meeting and Kai never said that before..

“All my success has been based on the fact that I wanted to make my mother proud, to win her smile of approval.

Why would Michael write this in a note to his mother and instead saying her "you" proud he says "my mother" proud. Isn't it a note sent to Katherine?
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 1:14 am

posted by Nimue on Tuesday, April 30th 2013 @ 5:58 AM
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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 1 - April 29 2013 – Summary - Part 2

AEG Opening Statement

AEG's lawyer Putnam said AEG has no choice and they will "show some ugly stuff" because AEG must defend itself from the accusations (CNN)

Putnam told the jury to look at the evidence, what it actually says. "This case is about the choices we make; and the responsibilities"(ABC7).

Putnam: evidence is going to show public MJ was very different from private MJ. MJ erected a wall between him and his family, staff. MJ kept his public and private life separated. He had 40 years to perfect that; he learned very well the cost of being exposed (ABC7)

AEG’s lawyer Putnam said MJ’s private life became known after he died. AEG lawyer says MJ’s guarded private life meant the company was unaware that he was using Propofol (AP).

"AEG knew nothing about this decade-long propofol use," Putnam said. "They were a concert promoter. How could they know?" (CNN)

Putnam says the company didn't have access to information shared between Jackson and his doctors. AEG’s lawyer Putnam said physician-patient confidentiality kept MJ’s reliance on propofol from becoming publicly known (AP).

Putnam said this also included Murray "He (Murray) couldn't tell anyone about the propofol use” (AP).

AEG lawyer Putnam said there was a public Jackson and a private Jackson, where his secrets were concealed (LATimes)

"The truth is, Michael Jackson fooled everyone," Putnam said. "He made sure that no one, nobody, knew his deepest darkest secrets." (AP & ABC)

AEG Lawyer Putnam: "The public Michael Jackson was very different from the private Michael Jackson. He erected a wall between himself and his family. Even his family wasn't sure what was going on at the house. He kept those who might have been able help him at a distance...AEG, like everyone else, was an outsider. They had no idea. [The propofol use] was going on behind locked doors. As with Mr. Jackson's life, his death was anything but typical." (EOnline)

Putnam: "Mr. Jackson got very, very, good at hiding his addiction. He didn't let anyone see it. Not his staff, not his children. This was the private Michael Jackson." (AP).

MJ’s ability to keep his private side private meant AEG could not see any red Putnam said "They (AEG) didn't see this coming. They (AEG) had no idea." (CNN).

AEG’s lawyer Putnam said Jackson family members will testify about their failed attempts at intervention and their lack of knowledge about what was happening.

"Even his family wasn't sure what was going on at time. They tried intervention and failed. Why? Because MJ was an addicted," said Putnam (ABC7)

Putnam: "If they didn't know what was going on, how could someone else think there was even a problem," (CNN).

Putnam showed jury MJ rehearsing “They Don’t Care About Us.” For This is it. Putnam said AEG executives watched MJ’s TDCAU performance.(AP) AEG’s lawyer argued MJ was amazing, attentive, great performance (ABC7) Putnam: ““He died two days later. That’s what you saw in public.” (AP)

Putnam mentioned the days after MJ’s death. Putnam said it took 2 months to find out what caused MJ's death. MJ had died of overdose of something called Propofol.(ABC7). AEG’s lawyer Putnam urged the jurors to remember that Propofol killed MJ. Putnam told jury they should distinguish between MJ’s painkiller abuse and his abuse of propofol (AP).

AEG’s lawyer Putnam: "One thing became very, very clear. While the world may not have heard of propofol, Mr. Jackson certainly had. The evidence is going to show you that he had been using that drug for years and years." (AP)

Putnam said that everyone knew MJ abused painkillers, since Michael announced it in 1993, ended the tour and entered rehab but AEG didn’t know about MJ’s decade-long Propofol use (ABC7).

Putnam said sometime in 1990s MJ began using Propofol. This was a big secret, so secret no one knew, not even his doctors.( ABC7).

AEG’s lawyer Putnam said jurors will hear from Debbie Rowe, who would tell them that Jackson used the anesthetic in the 1990s (AP). Debbie Rowe, will testify that she assisted in administering propofol to Jackson in the 1990s when she was a nurse. She saw several doctors put Mr. Jackson to sleep in hotel rooms while on tour," he said, including in Munich, London, Paris (CNN).

In 2007, Putnam says MJ approached AEG with the idea for a come back. But he decided he wasn't ready. In 2008, MJ approached AEG again. He was now prepared to go forward, Putnam said, even though he hadn't toured for about a decade. (ABC7)

Putnam mentioned Michael’s finances, his lavish spending and he was spending more than he was making. MJ was almost in $400 Million debt when he died (AP & ABC7)

“This is not a financial difficulty. $400 million is terrifying,” Putnam said. “And AEG didn’t know that.” (AP).

MJ had to bring in some money, Putnam said, so he had to go back Mas do what MJ does best: perform. There was no performer like MJ (ABC7)

AEG’s lawyer Putnam also mentioned Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware to the jury. Putnam said Gongaware made travel arrangements for Jackson’s “Dangerous” tour, but not a bigwig on tour(AP).

Putnam also tells jurors that contract between AEG and Jackson didn't require him to show up to rehearsals. The issue of when Jackson rehearsed was between him and his creative team, i.e. Kenny Ortega. Putnam says “These agreements are never about going to rehearsal, they’re about shows.” (AP)

Putnam described for the jury how a concert happens. The producers advance money so the artist can put the show on the road. Once show is in full swing, the artist pays back the producers and they split the profits. MJ was to get 90% and AEG 10%, Putnam said (ABC7) Production advances, to cover mutually-agreed production costs was $7.5 million, Putnam told the jurors, saying it was MJ who choose the staff. (ABC7)

In February 09, MJ was required to do a physical exam in order to get non-appearance insurance. Putnam said MJ was seen by a doctor selected by the insurance firm and that doctor determined MJ was healthy, no sign if drug use (ABC7).

Putnam says MJ told Gongaware he was going to bring his personal doctor Conrad Murray to the tour with him(ABC7)

AEG’s lawyer Putnam showed the jury contract of Murray and stated that Murray signed June 14th version but MJ did not. Putnam explains the jurors how money on the tour worked -- some talent, staffers paid in advance against Jackson’s payments. Murray’s payments would have come out of Jackson’s payments for “This Is It” tour, Putnam tells jury. (AP)

AEG’s Lawyer Putnam: It was not AEG's choice who Mr. Jackson's doctor is. It's a personal choice by Mr. Jackson and he chose Dr. Murray (ABC7)

Putnam, said Murray was MJ's choice and that AEG executives didn't understand why the singer wanted to bring him to London, where there were any number of excellent doctors. (LATimes)

Putnam said Murray worked for MJ and that the $150,000 a month that AEG was supposed to pay him was an advance to MJ, just as it had advanced him funds to pay for other production costs and his rented mansion in Holmby Hills.(LATimes) MJ expected AEG to assume the payment for Dr. Murray just like he did with everyone else.(ABC7)

Putnam plays a portion of Murray’s interview with the detectives after MJ’s death (AP).

When asked by detectives after MJ’s death Murray replied “I am an employee for Michael Jackson but paid through AEG. Does that help you?” (LATimes)

Putnam told jury that LAPD interview shows Murray considered himself an employee of Jackson (AP). AEG budgeted Murray’s payments but never paid him (ABC7) "AEG Live never paid Dr. Murray anything, ever," (CNN).

Putnam called Jackson an addict and said the company shouldn't be held responsible for his death. (AP) Putnam went back to the addiction to painkillers issue again.

He said MJ would get minor cosmetic or dental procedures and get the drugs (ABC7) Putnam told jury after MJ’s 1993 rehab announcement MJ concealed his painkiller addiction. At one point, Putnam showed a slide labeled “Doctor Shopping” that featured 45 doctors or medical professionals who AEG says treated MJ.(AP) Defense mentioned various doctors who say Jackson asked for propofol, including Dr. Metzger and Cherilyn Lee.(AP)

Putnam said MJ was very secretive even with his own doctors. He wouldn't tell one doctor about what the other doctor was doing (ABC7) Putnam said MJ resisted all attempts to get help. Family tried interventions, he turned down rehab and denied he had any addiction.(ABC7)

Putnam said he wasn't going to talk about damages, because he said he didn't believe there were any. But then he showed info showing that Katherine Jackson's attorneys gave gave AEG estimating $40.2 billion in damages. (AP)

Putnam showed the floor plan of MJ's house. He said no one was allowed in MJ's bedroom, not even the housekeepers. Only Dr. Murray. Putnam said that at night MJ would lock his bedroom's door so no one had access to the room. He said it wasn't for AEG to look into Murray (ABC7).

"This case is about the choices that we make and the personal responsibilities that go with that," countered AEG attorney Putnam in his opening statement. Putnam stated MJ was using propofol as a sleep aid "behind locked doors." (EOnline)

At the end, Putnam urged the jurors to wait until they hear all the evidence from both sides before making a judgment. (ABC7 & AP).

AEG lawyer Putnam talking about MJ’s decision to be treated by Murray said: "This case is about personal choices. Also, it was about his personal responsibility. There's no question that Michael Jackson's death was a terrible tragedy.” (AP)

Putnam ended his opening statements saying: "I believe the evidence will show it was not a tragedy of AEG Live's making," (AP & ABC7)

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/129265-Katherine-Jackson-vs-AEG-Live-Daily-Trial-Testimony-Summary


If Michael's doctors didn't know about the use of propofol why would Michael get it? Star Treck transporter theory? From out space?
But in the next statment the doctors used it on MJ (Debbie says). How if the doctors didn't know about it?
MJ and that the $150,000 a month that AEG was supposed to pay him was an advance to MJ
Is there in any part of Murray contract or MJ contract that the payment was an advance? Because if it was an advance and it is not set by contract the other part might refuse to pay back the advance, right?

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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 1:29 am

posted by Nimue on Tuesday, April 30th 2013 @ 6:30 PM




Paramedic Richard Senneff - First witness (for KJ):


Katherine Jackson has left the courtroom for his testimony.

Judge also told attorneys they have to tell her which witnesses are coming up, and how long their testimony is expected to last.

Judge Yvette Palazuelos said Randy Jackson can remain, but that there can’t be a lot of Jacksons supporting Katherine if they’re expected to testify. Witnesses who aren’t parties generally aren’t allowed to listen to testimony.

That might explain why Jermaine, Tito, Jackie are not there. Marlon is not in the witness list and could be there

Randy and Rebbie are.



Plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish said Randy is supporting Katherine Jackson in the courtroom and should stay.

AEG asked to exclude Randy Jackson from the courtroom because he is listed as a witness. Judge declined for now

Katherine Jackson in hanging out in the cafeteria at the courthouse. She's walking around the outside area with bodyguards and sheriff

No one seems to be bothering Katherine Jackson. Everyone giving her the space she needs.

There was last minute change in the order of the witnesses. First one was Richard Senneff, paramedic/firefighter who tried to resuscitate MJ

Senneff explained what a paramedic does and the different machines in a rescue ambulance which are related to trauma and cardiac arrest
Senneff detailed the coverage area of the LA city department, what areas they serve and difference between city and county of LA

Senneff: "You learn so much about the community" He said there are about 1100 paramedics in the city of LA, about 1050 are firefighters too

Katherine and Randy Jackson left the courtroom when Senneff began testifying. They didn't want to hear/see what happened in the house

Odd… Didn’t they hear what the children said about it?


Senneff said he arrived at Jackson's house at 12:25 pm PT and got out of the ambulance with their equipment, EKG monitor, needles, meds

Senneff: I came in to that front door and saw what later I found out was Dr. Murray and a patient on the bed

Senneff: He was leaning over the patient, patient laying on the bed, dr Murray standing there and they were moving the patient to the floor

Senneff: I saw a patient wearing pajama pants and shirt, and some surgical cover over the head. He looked very pale, very weak.

One leg pajamas? What about the IV line on the leg?

Paramedic Senneff's early testimony focuses on his experience. He seems comfortable, and some of the jurors are smiling at his statements.

“If it’s burned, I’ve seen it.” _ Richard Senneff tells the jury while recounting his career before and after responding to Jackson’s home.

What is burned???


Brian Panish question: “Have you ever rescued any cats in trees?” Senneff: Laughing, “I have not rescued a cat.” (He has treated a dog.)

Good to know. I will not call him to rescue my cats.

An AEG attorney only got a few minutes into cross-examination before lunch. Court will resume in a few mins.

AEG attorney questioned him for 45 mins total, ending her questioning by asking him about his knowledge of propofol.

Senneff told her that he knew propofol was a general anesthesia, but had never seen it used.

On re-direct examination, plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish asked Senneff whether he thought Conrad Murray was competent to perform CPR.

Senneff said he didn’t believe Conrad Murray was competent enough to perform CPR. He's now done testifying.

A cardiologist is not competent enough to perform CPR.


Panish: How was the patient? Senneff: "To me he looked at the end stage"

Senneff: "Patient looked underweight to me." He also said he "appeared to be chronically ill."

Senneff said he saw an IV pole and an IV bag on the pole, along with an oxygen tank. There were medicine bottles on the nightstand.

Panish showed pic with IV pole, IV bag and oxygen tank. Another picture showed bedside table with pill bottles, water bottle, juice bottle
Senneff: "Once someone said his name, I looked at the patient's face and saw it was Michael Jackson."

Senneff said initially he was not able to identify the patient, but as it progressed someone said his name was Michael Jackson

But Senneff said the patient did not look like one suffering from dehydration exhaustion, which are relatively mild conditions.

Senneff said MJ's chest was pale white, his hands and feet turned blue from not getting enough ventilation/oxygen.

OOopps it doesn’t match with the AR


Senneff: Dr Murray had a white plastic bag in one hand. When I came to the door he froze, he was actually surprised to see me (in MJ's room)

Senneff: Dr. Murray rode in the ambulance together. He was standing in the ambulance, holding the top rail, talking on the cell phone

Senneff: Dr Murray said he felt femoral artery pulse. However, Senneff said no one else, other than Dr. Murray, was able to find a pulse

Senneff: a paramedic was using the ambu bag to breath for the patient, another connecting the EKG machine and was giving him drugs

Senneff said it was chaotic outside the house, very difficult to get out. People trying to take pix, unbelievable amount of commotion

Upon arrival at UCLA, Senneff explained to the ER doctor what he had done, like a quick recap, no changes in patient's status

Senneff said everybody was following the ambulance. He was shown a picture of MJ inside the ambulance and confirmed it was legit.

So is Ben’ picture the real deal??? What??


Senneff said he let Dr. Murray go through his medical bag since what he was doing was reasonable.

Defense atty Kathryn Cahan did Senneff's cross examination: "No one on your team detected pulse? No Was he dead for a period of time? Yes"

Senneff said it is not unusual for family members, people around the patient not know whether they are taking drugs

Q: Did dr Murray lied to you? Senneff: I'm not even going there. I was worried about the patient and all the info I can get

Cahan went through the emergency medical service report again. It asks the weight of the patient, Senneff estimated 150lbs, 5'09-ish

Michael went from 125 lbs to 150 lbs in hours at the end it was set in 136 lbs.

Panish said Dr. Murray performed CPR with Michael Jackson on the bed: "That's not how you're supposed to do it," Senneff opined.

Senneff answers 120 calls per month average. He said he got very good at estimating people's weight.

When Senneff asked Dr. Murray about MJ's underlying condition: "He said nothing, nothing, I'm just treating him 4 dehydration, exhaustion."

Then it was back to Panish for re-direct. Senneff told the court he did not see Dr. Murray actually performing CPR.

So how did he know it was done at all?


Senneff said the American Heart Association indicates CPR is performed on a bed it's less desirable. One must place patient on hard surface

It seems the cardiologist doesn’t know that


Panish: What did Michael Jackson tell you? Senneff: Nothing, sir Panish: Because he was dead when you arrived? Senneff: Yes, sir

First the lawyers had a heated discussion if Michael was dead or not, and now a lawyer asked what did Michael Jackson tell you... hmmm


elke hassell ‏@ElkeHassell 11h

When asked by Panish "What did Michael say" Michael said " Get your acts together and get this thing rolling you dumb knit wits


Senneff agreed that it is expected that a competent, fit physician be able to revive a patient in respiratory arrest. No re-cross by defense

Additional:


Because of what he saw, Senneff asked Murray if MJ had a “do not resuscitate” order.

"Dr. Murray loked at me blankly at first," Senneff testified. Then the doctor said, "No, no, this just happened."(LATimes)

Senneff said Murray told him he was treating the patient for dehydration and exhaustion and said Jackson was not taking any medication.(LATimes)

Senneff testified that Murray never told him about Propofol (Reuters)

Senneff: "I asked what his underlying condition was.... the doctor said nothing, that he was just treating him for dehydration & exhaustion" (ABC7)

"It just looked a lot more complicated than dehydration and exhaustion," Senneff testified. (LATimes)

Senneff asked what kind of medication patient was taking. Senneff said that according to Dr. Murray, "he was not" (taking any medication) (ABC7)

When he asked Murray when the emergency had happened, he said Murray told him: "Just this minute. Right when I called you.”(LATimes)
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 1:33 am

posted by Nimue on Tuesday, April 30th 2013 @ 6:36 PM

Orlando Martinez

Det. Orlando Martinez spent first 20 mins or so on the stand explaining his work history, training and LAPD assignments.

Martinez then moved into events of June 25, 2009. He talked going to UCLA Medical Center and talking to bodyguards, hospital staff.

At the hospital, LAPD officers decided to fly Jackson’s body to the coroner’s officer so that the transport wouldn't become a spectacle.

And at the helicopter was not a spectacle???


Martinez then went on to Jackson’s rented mansion at 100 N. Carrolwood Drive. He snapped photos of many things, including the mailbox.

Why was the mailbox so important?

Det. Martinez said the point of taking many photos is to take viewers on a visual journey through a crime scene.

Martinez walks jurors through numerous photos of Jackson’s bedroom, including close-up pictures of the singer’s nightstand, pill bottles.

I thought Elisa Fleak took those pictures..

He tells the jury about how police made three separate trips to Jackson’s home to collect evidence. Lots of photos being displayed to jurors

But didn't seal it as a crime scene


Det. Martinez describes the various medications found in Jackson’s bedroom and closet, including the numerous bottles of propofol.
A lot of Martinez’s testimony is the same info that jurors in the criminal case heard.

Court will resume in a few minutes. I'll go back into the courtroom. I'm told Katherine and Randy Jackson haven't returned to courtroom.
LAPD Detective Orlando Martinez's testimony focused on Murray's finances as a potential motive for his treatment of Jackson.

Martinez says he determined the doctor was more than $500,000 in debt, facing foreclosure and his “office was about to be closed.”

Plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish asks whether a lot of the info Martinez searched was readily available. Most are public records, he says.

Panish: “Is there any question in your mind that Dr. Murray was in dire financial straits?” Martinez: “No, there was no question.”

"He may break the rules, bend the rules, do whatever he needed to do to get paid," _detective on Conrad Murray

Panish: Did you see anyone at the hospital affiliated with AEG?Martinez: I saw Mr. DiLeo and Randy Phillips

Martinez said he also I saw Mrs. Jackson, Randy and the children but it was from a distance. He couldn't characterize their demeanor

Panish: Were you able to speak with Dr. Murray at the UCLA? Martinez: No Panish: Why not? Martinez: He had left


Remember now the Ambulance picture is official hehe


Additional


Martinez took fingerprints off the bags and found Dr. Murray's prints on the bottles. Panish showed picture of lidocaine and oximeter

No Michael fingerprints? How come? Didn’t Murray said Michael injected himself with propofol?


Another pix shows empty Propofol bottle and empty saline bag with a slit on it. Martinez said Dr. Murray was the 1 who sliced the saline bag

Next picture: Eye drops, bottles of Propofol, lidocaine, benoquin, caffeine/ephedrine energy pills and business card of Dr. Murray

Martinez: BMW was registered to Susan Rush, Texas address. It was registered to her name, but it was her brother's car, Dr. Conrad Murray

Another picture shows inside the security trailer with several oxygen tanks. Next picture: MJ's closet with his clothes hung

Katherine and Randy Jackson never went back to the courtroom in the afternoon. Rebbie was also at the courthouse with her mother.

Martinez said at that time the investigation was leading to natural or accidental death, no real signs of foul play, but it was odd.

Search of Dr. Murray's vehicle was conducted at the official police garage in West L.A. Martinez said he found 3items he thought important

In Murray's car: handwriten note with 24 hour pharmacies names/numbers; Randy Phillips' business card; contract between Dr. Murray and AEG

I thought the signed contract was at the house not at Murray’s car


Martinez had already interviewed Dr. Murray prior to the car's search. He attempted to interview him again, but doc wasn't talking anymore

More than one interview? I thought it was just the one at the hotel


Martinez said he was looking for a motive for MJ's death, and the contract could be important financial aspect to investigate.

When Martinez interviewed Dr. Murray, along with two of his attorneys: "he was not being honest and forthright"

So a detective interview a suspect, noticed “he was not being honest and forthright” and still didn’t take this suspect to the police station to make it official, but have a nice conversation instead. It was never taken Murray deposition, only interview


When he Martinez interviewed Dr. Murray, along with two of his attorneys, Martinez thought "he was not being honest and forthright"

Martinez said he needed to investigate if case was for Dr. Murray's own financial gain. Martinez ran the doctor's name in computer databases

Martinez said Dr. Murray has 8 children by 7 women. He classified Dr. Murray's financial condition in May/June 09 as "severely distressed"

Hmmm, back on 2009 (DON’T TELL AEG THIS) we found almost nothing about Murray in our search…

Martinez checked Dr. Murray's credit report. "There was a notice up that his house was either on a lien or being foreclosed on."

Panish showed a document from a title company that said Dr. Murray owed $ 1,644,644.25 for the loan of his house (unpaid principal balance)

As of January 2009, Dr. Murray had not been paying his mortgage and was
behind $ 15,165.11. Late charges accruing at rate of $3,477.95

Panish displayed to the jury several documents showing Dr. Murray had many liens and owed lots of money in child support in various counties


Additional:


Martinez didn't search Murray's vehicle because he wanted a search warrant. Martinez didn't leave Murray's car at the residence, wanted a reason for the doc to go talk to him. Car was impounded to a police yard

Seeing pictures of MJ's room, Martinez said he saw IV bag, pill bottles, vials, ambu bag. "It looked like the room had been cleaned up," he said. Martinez: "Things had been removed from the room prior to police's arrival." He took several pictures to document the scene. (ABC7) Martinez says he learned from Dr. Murray that there were 3 bags total of medicine in the closet. He went back to the house to retrieve them. Martinez took fingerprints off the bags and found Dr. Murray's prints on the bottles.(ABC7) (Jurors were shown several pictures of evidence collected and crime scene photos)

Still he didn’t seal the scene. It was cleaned up on Jun 25?

I thought Michael had injected himself with propofol, where is his fingerprints? Oh I forgot.. he is the gloved one.


Detective Martinez testified that after interviewing Murray and after the search of Murray's car four days after MJ's death, his "thinking at the moment was the crime was negligence." (CNN)

Murray's Las Vegas home, which he bought for $1.6 million, was appraised at barely $1 million in 2009, he said. The Las Vegas real estate market had suffered a major decline in home values up to that date.(CNN) The house was in foreclosure (LATimes)

Orlando Martinez testified that Murray was trying to deal with the large drop in value of his Las Vegas home, unpaid taxes and child support payments for eight children with seven women.(CNN)
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 1:39 am


"Mother, My Guardian Angel"
by Michael Jackson

The reflection of a Mother’s heart
Is in the glimmer in her children’s eyes
Her every emotion and feeling is somewhere in her children’s character
Noble men are what this Mother made them
Why does my Mother cry?
Are these happy tears or sorrow?
Oh please God, let them be happy tears
All my success has been based on the fact
That I wanted to make my Mother proud
To win her smile of approval

God bless you Katherine Jackson


This is the full poem, as read out in court by Brian Panish
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PostSubject: Katherine Jackson Caught in HUGE Contradiction   16th September 2013, 1:43 am

posted by Nimue on Wednesday, May 1st 2013 @ 7:13 AM

It took a long time for Radaronline for find out about the letter at 2007, They too slow...

Katherine Jackson Caught in HUGE Contradiction
About Michael That Could Sink Wrongful Death Claim — See The Proof!

Katherine Jackson has been caught in a huge contradiction about her son Michael‘s drug use — a contradiction so big it could sink her $40 billion wrongful death lawsuit against concert promoter AEG, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.

An attorney for Katherine told jurors Monday in opening statements of the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial that the late King of Pop had been addicted to prescription drugs for decades and that Michael’s family knew it and only AEG claims to have been unaware of it.

But RadarOnline.com has exclusively obtained a statement signed by the Jackson family matriarch claiming that her son DIDN’T have an addiction to painkillers or alcohol.

And you can see the proof below, as Radar has obtained the signed statement that pokes a huge hole in the argument offered by Katherine’s attorney.

In 2007, nearly two years after Jackson had been acquitted of child molestation charges in Santa Maria, California, and two years before his death, Katherine Jackson, Jermaine, Jackie, Tito and Marlon issued a public statement, signed by all five, declaring Michael didn’t have ANY substance issues.

They all also declared they had never attempted to stage an intervention on Michael. The statement was released after People magazine published a story that the King of Pop was dependent on booze and pills.

It’s a key point because Katherine is suing concert promoter AEG and her attorneys claim everyone knew Michael had painkiller addiction problems — trying to cast doubt on AEG’s claim that it was unaware. Now, suddenly, it seems as if the family’s position has shifted to fit the lawsuit.

The family’s statement, issued on September 7, 2007, says, “People Magazine has followed other publications in reporting untrue and inaccurate information about MIchael Jackson and the Jackson family. Of these wildly reported rumors, what has become the most troubling and heinous, is that my son, and our brother, Michael Jackson, is dependent on painkillers and alcohol. People and other news organizations, have quoted “sources,” indicating that our family has attempted a drug intervention, and engaged in an effort to take over his business affairs, because of this alleged drug and alcohol usage.

“We categorically deny ever planning, participating in, or having knowledge of any kind of intervention, whatsoever,” the statement asserts.

You can read the signed document here:



Katherine Jackson’s attorney, Brian Panish, told jurors during opening statements on Monday in the wrongful death trial, that the Thriller singer had an addiction to painkillers, and that concert promoter, AEG failed to to properly investigate Dr. Conrad Murray. Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in the death of Michael.

“Over the years Michael’s family and people who knew him believed he had a problem with prescription medication,” Panish told jurors, and that AEG and its executives claim to be the only ones who were unaware of his issues.

Panish revealed to the jury of six men and six women that Jackson had an addiction to prescription drugs, including Demerol, and relied on pain medications after he suffered horrific burns on his head during the filming of a Pepsi commercial in 1984.

The public statement Katherine signed in 2007, “could prove to be very problematic for her when she takes the stand. It could be used to discredit her testimony in front of the jury. Katherine knew for years before he died that Michael had an addiction to Demerol. AEG doesn’t want to rake Katherine over the coals, but she is suing them for $40 billion dollars,” a source close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com exclusively.

AEG maintains it did not hire Murray and could not have predicted the events that led to Jackson’s death.

A lawyer for AEG, Marvin Putnam, told jurors during opening statements that there was no way the concert promoter could have known that Jackson was being given Propofol by Dr. Murray.

“That was between doctor and patient and not AEG Live… this case is about taking responsibility for your actions,” Putnam said.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/katherine-jackson-says-michael-not-drug-addict-signed-document/
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 1:46 am

posted by Nimue on Wednesday, May 1st 2013 @ 9:30 AM

Sharon Osbourne - Sharon Osbourne to testify in Jackson lawsuit

Sharon Osbourne has been subpoenaed to testify in the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial.

'The Talk' co-host revealed she was served with papers in Los Angeles on Tuesday (30.04.13), demanding her attendance to serve as a witness for the prosecution in the $40 million bitter battle between the late King of Pop's mother, Katherine Jackson, and concert promoters AEG Live.

Speaking after she received the official notification, Sharon said: ''I was like, what do you do (after being served)? You do your duty. Somebody asks you to come to court, you are subpoenaed and you do your duty.''

Sharon was previously named as a potential witness after she revealed that she may have evidence to support Katherine's claims that the promoters, who were responsible for the 50-date London residency he was preparing for at the time of his death from acute Propofol intoxication in June 2009, were negligent in hiring Conrad Murray to supervise the 'Thriller' star's medical care.

The 60-year-old star, who recently admitted she is ''devastated'' after her husband Ozzy Osbourne relapsed and got hooked on prescription drugs over the past 18 months, said on her talk show last month: ''There were certain people that worked at that company (AEG Live) that knew that Michael Jackson was not well and didn't care because it was business. And, at the end of the day, whether he performed or he didn't, they would still make money, and I've had conversations with certain people at that company who have said exactly that to me.

''If they would like me to go to court, the Jackson family, I will stand up and tell you who said that to me.''

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/sharon-osbourne-to-testify-in-jackson-lawsuit_3637144

I don't get it. Her testimony is hersay.. she wasn't there when it happned
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 1:47 am

posted by Nimue on Wednesday, May 1st 2013 @ 10:24 AM

Quote :

Senneff: I saw a patient wearing pajama pants and shirt, and some surgical cover over the head.
Why would Michael need to wear a surgical cover over his head to sleep at HIS OWN BEDROOM AT HIS HOME?
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PostSubject: Vid: Michael Jackson, Crime Scene, Autopsy Report   16th September 2013, 1:50 am

posted by Nimue on Wednesday, May 1st 2013 @ 2:08 PM

This video of MJJ20Girl fits perfectly here



PS: I am confused. The equipment clock and his story seem to be off in two ways. It says 11:51, the paramedics got there 12:26 so equipment clock would be 1 hour BEHIND as pointed out. Now they got at UCLA around 13:07 if the 14:00 record is off it means the equipment clock would have to be 1 hour AHEAD. Is it time loop or the equipment has 2 clocks?
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PostSubject: Orlando Martinez   16th September 2013, 2:01 am

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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP

No sign of Jacksons, but Det. Orlando Martinez just walked into courtroom wearing a cowboy hat.
Very slow going in court this morning -- lots of dry documents discussed to underscore that Conrad Murray was in deep financial trouble

Jacksons vs AEG - Day 3 – May 1 2013 – Summary

Today’s court session was only one hour as one of the alternate jurors had a funeral to attend. Nobody from Jackson family was present at court.

LAPD Detective Orlando Martinez Testimony (continued)

Jackson direct(continued)

Det. Martinez’s testimony resumed with him discussing documents on Murray’s finances he obtained during his investigation (AP)

Detective had to explain how he got the documents – authenticate them - so they can be entered into evidence. (AP) Some documents were obtained with subpoena, others public record (ABC7).

Attorneys argued about the docs they want to admit as evidence. Defense objected to a bunch of docs, saying they weren't authenticated. (ABC7) AEG attorney objected to admission of several of the documents, saying it wasn’t clear whether they were public records. Judge sustained many of the objections. Judge also had testy exchanges with Jacksons attorney Panish with Judge telling him to move along. (AP) After several minutes of discussions, Judge said to put the exhibits/evidence issues aside; she wanted better use of jurors' time (ABC7)

Martinez testified about eviction notices for Conrad Murray’s medical offices (2007 & 2009) and other liens issued against doc. The detective also walked jury through Murray’s credit reports, which were obtained through a subpoena (AP)

Income and Expense Declaration filed with San Diego Court shows Dr. Murray's net month disposable income was negative $2,706.33 in July/09 (ABC7).

Panish asked Martinez about 5 day notice to pay rent or quit -- Dr. Murray owed $7,058.38 in business rent, had evicted note and tax liens (ABC7)

Panish: What's the relevance of Dr. Murray having delinquent taxes?
Martinez: shows more evidence of him being in financial dire straits(ABC7)

Panish listed several other docs showing Dr. Murray's liens, unpaid bills in an effort to show the jury the doctor was in financial distress(ABC7)

Panish: did you check Dr. Murray's credit?
Martinez: yes, by serving grand jury subpoena on experian, equifax and transunion (ABC7)

The credit report shows Dr. Murray was current in some of his accounts. Panish noted doc he was paying some debts but defaulted in his home(ABC7)

Panish is trying to show the jury that a simple background check on Dr. Murray would show AEG that the doc was in deep financial troubles.(ABC7)

Student loans, credit cards, credit medical companies, cell phone companies, funding companies, there were all kinds of debts, Panish said.(ABC7)

Orlando obtained docs from state licensing medical boards regarding Dr. Murray to check his status and if he had any disciplinary actions(ABC7).

Martinez told reporters he got Murray’s phone records and focused on a 12 hour period between June 24 and June 25, 2009. (AP)

Martinez: for criminal liability that 12 hours of care, from when he arrived at the house until he called 911, was pertinent (ABC7)

Martinez was asked about the calls Murray made to Nicole Alvarez, including one he made in back of the ambulance on June 25, 2009. The detective said he didn’t know what Murray and Alvarez discussed (AP).

11:26 am-- received phone call, possibly Michael Amir Williams
1:08 pm -- made call to Nicole Alvarez while in the ambulance (ABC7)

Call was a bit over 2 minutes (133 seconds). Martinez did not know for sure what they were talking about, questioned Alvarez about it (ABC7)

Detective Martinez also testified about a search warrant he served on Alvarez’s apartment in August 2009. Martinez said he didn't find any of Murray's belongings (ABC7) The detective said he only found one slip of paper with Murray’s name on it in Alvarez’s apartment. He says he found that odd. (AP)

Martinez: He was living there and none of his stuff was there.(ABC7)

LAPD Detective Martinez will continue to testify tomorrow.


continued:

Detectives Dan Meyers and Scott Smith partnered with Martinez. They investigate Dr. Murray in connection with the criminal matter.

Martinez said his unit at LAPD investigates sexual assault, robbery, murder. The detective entered MJ's house pursuant to the investigation.

As a police officer, Putnam asked Martinez if he had special privileges to do searches. Martinez said private investigators can do it too

Putnam: If I wanted to look up your credit, will I need your permission? Martinez: I think so

Putnam: there are limits as to what civilians can do in terms of search, like DMV search? Martinez: I believe so

Putnam asked Martinez if searching someone's credit without consent is a crime Putnam: it would be a crime? Martinez: It's a misdemeanor

As to looking for Dr. Conrad Murray at UCLA, Martinez said: "when I sent the other two detectives to go find him, he was gone."
Putnam asked why Martinez wanted to talk to Dr. Murray: "To get straight from the horses's mouth what happened."

Martinez said they knew where Dr. Murray was, but he was not answering police calls. "We knew where he was, we were tracking his cell phone"

Panish: Were you suspicious of Dr. Murray? Martinez: Yes, if it waas medical emergency/natural death why would he be refusing 2 speak w/ us

Dr. Murray was not interviewed until two days after MJ's death. The doctor told Martinez he had spoken with AEG's people while at UCLA.

Putnam asked about all the times Martinez went to MJ's house over the months after MJ's death. Martinez confirmed he was there several times

Judge Palazuelos asked Martinez if the police had secured MJ's property. He said yes, up until about midnight on the day MJ died.
After midnight, Martinez said, MJ's house was only secured by MJ's security team and family members could come and go freely.

Putnam showed Martinez pix of the front door of MJ's house. The detective identified the entrance as the one he used to enters the property.

Martinez said the house has 3 levels: 1st, 2nd, basement w/ movie theater, exercise room, wine cellar; all very clean and organized

The only mess was on Michael’s bedroom, of course he was moving..


Next picture showed the second floor's master bedroom -- it was MJ's master bedroom, but not the one he received treatment.

There were a lot of papers on the floor, master bedroom was very messy. Martinez said curtains were pulled and fireplace was on.

Pics of mater bedroom showed papers on the floor, clothes hung, books piled, moving boxes. Hall to the closet covered with clothes.

One of the many closets in the mater bedroom was very disorganized, clothes and boxes all over the place, on the floor. Complete mess.

Martinez said the room seemed messy but it didn't seem out of the ordinary. It was night and day compared to the rooms downstairs, he opined

Pictures showed the master bathroom also messy, clothes everywhere, boxes with stuff, shopping bags.

Martinez said MJ's house was secured from 2:30 pm PT until about midnight on the day MJ died. After midnight, the scene was not secured.

So they called the death at 2:36 pm and LAPD had the house secured before it, how come?

On the 26th, Martinez got a search warrant to search the house since he had obtained more information in the investigation.

Search warrant: ...his staff was allowed to be present on the ground floor. No staff was allowed on the top floors.

A chef, Kai Chase, was allowed to go upstairs to drop food off outside the door.

I thought she said she never went upstair

Search warrant: During the course of the investigation, family members notified coroner that they had located luggage on the second floor

Dr. Murray's attys called police for interview; lasted 2 1/2 hrs. Martinez said he learned facts that led him to believe this was criminal

Martinez said he first noticed the drug Propofol when he found a vial in Jackson's room. Martinez' neighbor is a doctor, he asked for help

Martinez said he believes Dr. Murray's first orders of Propofol were in March 2009. They were shipped from Las Vegas to Santa Monica.

Dr. Murray was the person who paid for the items, Martinez said. Dr. Murray also paid for all the Propofol orders.

Martinez said LAPD doesn't name people as suspects, but "It was common knowledge he (Dr. Murray) was a suspect."

Martinez interviewed Mrs. Jackson in Dec 09. He wanted to clear up some stuff regarding family meetings, addiction, intervention

Martinez: Family had attempted several interventions, spoken with other sons about his possible problems with drugs.

That is new. Someone forgot to send the meno to Jermaine


Putnam: Do you remember what Mrs. Jackson told you MJ said? Martinez: That he denied having a problem

Martinez said Mrs. Jackson thought MJ was taking drugs for back pain. The Dective though his addition was to painkillers.

Martinez wrote in a doc that Mrs. Jackson saw Dr. Murray at UCLA for the 1st time. She said she didn't know who he was until Michael's death
Martinez: "Mrs. Jackson stated the family attempted several times to help Michael, however he would have nothing to do with it."

Panish accused AEG of implying Murray was a great doctor. "But that's not true, you found out that he had killed someone else" Panish asked

Remember this?

Dr. Murray Dodged Wrongful Death Lawsuit in 2007


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/15/dr-conrad-murray-michael-jackson-death-investigation-former-patients-murder-wrongful-death/#ixzz2SBmoW6ck

Back on 2011 TMZ posted this article. We have this article posted here at the forum somewhere else.

Putnam objected and Panish rephrased the statement, saying Martinez found out Dr. Murray was sued for wrongful death of another patient

Putnam noted that the person who died under Dr. Murray's care died of natural causes and no lawsuit was filed. Marinez said he was wrong.

Putnam asked Martinez what was his suspicion. For that amount of money he wondered if Murray would bend rules to be the 1 getting the money

Plaintiffs' attorney told the judge toxicologist Mr. Anderson and coroner Dr. Rogers are expected to testify on Monday.

Martinez did not interview Michael's children. Another detective did, but they chose not to get into the drug abuse line of questioning.

This is new:

Martinez said that when he arrived, Jackson’s children and his brother Randy were at the home. He also saw three cars, including Murray’s BMW.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-michael-jackson-bedroom-aeg-20130502,0,3325050.story

So the children were at Carolwood at Jun 25.



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PostSubject: AEG agreed to stipulate Michael Jackson is dead   16th September 2013, 2:04 am

posted by Nimue on Wednesday, May 1st 2013 @ 2:39 PM

AEG lawyer concedes: Michael Jackson is dead


Los Angeles (CNN) -- A week after AEG's lawyer refused to concede for legal arguments that Michael Jackson is dead, he acknowledged the pop icon's death in court.

The stipulation -- an agreement between two parties in a case that something is a given fact -- could save time in a trial that is expected to last several months.

Michael Jackson's mother and children are suing AEG Live, contending the concert promoter is liable for the pop icon's death because it negligently hired, retained and supervised Dr. Conrad Murray, the physician convicted of involuntary manslaughter in his death.

While acknowledging Jackson died on June 25, 2009, AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam is still reluctant to stipulate what killed him and that Murray was the cause.

Here's the courtroom exchange between Jackson lawyer Brian Panish and Putnam Wednesday:

Panish: "I'm asking for a stipulation that Michael Jackson died and the cause of death. Are you willing to stipulate that Michael Jackson died?"

Putnam: "Absolutely."

Panish: "Are you willing to stipulate that the cause of his death was Dr. Murray?"

Putnam: "That you've never asked before. Let me look at what that means."

Putnam refused to stipulate that Jackson was dead at a pretrial hearing last week, later explaining to CNN that he did not want to concede any elements that are needed to prove the case against AEG.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/01/showbiz/jackson-death-trial/index.html?sr=sharebar_twitter


AEG agreed to stipulate Michael Jackson is dead, but need to think about stipulating that Dr. Murray is the cause of his death. (ABC7)

Panish: "I'm asking for a stipulation that Michael Jackson died and the cause of death. Are you willing to stipulate that Michael Jackson died?"
Putnam: "Absolutely."
Panish: "Are you willing to stipulate that the cause of his death was Dr. Murray?"
Putnam: "That you've never asked before. Let me look at what that means." (CNN)

AEG’s attorney asked judge to take some witnesses out of order, since they have to travel for work. Jacksons added more witnesses too. (ABC7)

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/129265-Katherine-Jackson-vs-AEG-Live-Daily-Trial-Testimony-Summary?p=3817156&viewfull=1#post3817156
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 2:05 am

posted by Nimue on Wednesday, May 1st 2013 @ 4:59 PM

Just for the record and future reference to Jermaine testimony



In Jermaine written words:

I personally submitted a question regarding Michael being called a drug addict to Jermaine in his MJJC Q&A. Read his reply:

MJJC: You occasionally call out celebrities who call Michael a drug addict, and we love you for it. However, you seem to stay silent when your own family calls Michael an addict. What is the truth? Are you at odds with certain family members that continue to call Michael a drug addict? Have you ever told them to stop it or to try and word their comments better?

Jermaine Jackson: I'm not at odds with anyone because everyone accepts that Michael died due to Propofol intoxication, and he used it because he was desperate to sleep, not because he was addicted.

I personally felt it was important to point out the difference between Michael's one time addiction to painkillers, and the sensationalist addiction talk of him being "a junkie" that the media and Murray wrongly attached to his death. That was why I wrote what I did and why I called out all the bull-crap during the trial.

My siblings shared private conversations and concerns with our brother about his addiction around 2001/02 time, and they are entitled to talk about it, but talking about that period does not mean they are calling him a drug addict in 2009. He wasn't.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/121660-MJJC-Exclusive-Q-amp-A-with-Jermaine-Jackson-Read-Jermaine-s-answers?styleid=-1
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 2:08 am

A believer posting after attending the courtroom...

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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 2:12 am

posted by Nimue on Thursday, May 2nd 2013 @ 7:49 PM

This is weird. I got a little suspicious about that and I don't know why


First day in court:

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartney

Judge Yvette Palazuelos said Randy Jackson can remain, but that there can’t be a lot of Jacksons supporting Katherine if they’re expected to testify. Witnesses who aren’t parties generally aren’t allowed to listen to testimony.
AEG asked to exclude Randy Jackson from the courtroom because he is listed as a witness. Judge declined for now

But today:

Katherine and Rebbie Jackson were at court today.

AEG attorney opposed to Rebbie’s presence as she might be a witness (LATimes). Judge Yvette Palazuelos had ordered that only one Jackson family member accompany Katherine Jackson. AEG wanted it to be Randy every day (ABC7). Judge ruled Rebbie could stay. "I think Mrs. Jackson should have at least 1 support person in the courtroom.” (LATimes)

Does it make sense?

Why AEG changed its mind?

Why is so important now that Randy a witness like Rebbie attend to the court every day with Katherine?


“Mrs. Jackson stated that she last spoke with Michael at his residence on Carolwood approximately one and a half weeks prior to his death. When asked if Mrs. Jackson had ever met Dr. Murray she stated that she had not and didn’t even know who he was until after Michael’s death. “Mrs. Jackson was asked if she or any other family members ever attempted to do an intervention with Michael as it relates to painkillers or any other drugs. She stated that there had been one attempted intervention at Neverland on behalf of Janet, however Michael didn’t want to participate. “Mrs. Jackson stated that she had been informed Michael had been taking drugs, however she had no idea which drugs, and she had never seen Michael take any drugs. Mrs. Jackson stated that the family attempted several times to help Michael however he would have nothing to do with it. She further stated that she had asked Michael if he was taking any drugs and Michael denied it.“When asked if Michael had any chronic medical conditions that she was aware of, Mrs. Jackson stated that he had problems sleeping and that his back frequently bothered him. She stated she thought the back pain was a result of falling off of a stage during a performance.” (LATimes)
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 2:18 am

posted by Nimue

May 5th updates

Appeal notice

Case summary was showing this “04/26/2013 Notice of Appeal Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner” but we did not have any information.

The added documents show that this appeal is filed by Katherine Jackson and it’s about judge’s decision to dismiss the complaint against AEG Inc. and Tim Leiweke. In other words Katherine’s lawyers are asking the Appellate court to reverse the judge’s order of dismissing the complaint against AEG Inc and its CEO.

Updates to this appeal can be followed from this link : http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.g...doc_no=B248420

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MJ Estate’s motion to seal medical record


Estate’s motion to seal medical records is denied and the medical records are ordered to get unsealed.
Judge’s reasons for denying the motion to seal medical records include: court records being presumed public, public’s right of access to information, both Katherine and AEG stating they will be relying on medical records, how Michael’s medical history is the main issue in this trial, parties right to fair trial and how it would be impractical to close down the courtroom to public when medical information is presented.

The same day of this ruling Estate has filed a second amended notice of motion to seal which would be heard August 16, 2013.

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Redaction decision

Judge decided to redact:
- Gongaware’s personal email
- Kathy Jorrie’s personal phone number
- Nanny Grace’s social security and bank account number
- In TII salary information:
------ Names of the musicians, dancers and stagehands will be redacted
------ Other tour professionals (names and salaries) will not be redacted.

AEG's motion to preclude Katherine's past due discovery

AEG had filed a motion to preclude some last minute submissions and additions done by Katherine. You can read the details here: http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/th...=1#post3812341

This is judge’s decisions


1. Late produced documents: AEG’s motion is denied and Katherine can use these late produced documents which consist of family pictures, videos and handwritten notes of Michael.

2. Late identified witnesses

AEG’s motion to exclude Tom Mesereau and Sharon Osbourne is denied however the Judge said AEG can depose them before they take the stand to testify.

Court is also allowing the 14 additional names on Katherine’s witness list.

3. Late identified and improper designation of William Ackerman

Jacksons withdrew their request to cross list Ackerman as a fraud expert.

4. Katherine's improper non-retained experts should be excluded

Judge states witness listings such as “Entire LA coroner office” is improper and ordered to be corrected.

4. Late requests from MJ Estate

January 2013 Katherine's lawyers filed a request from MJ Estate asked Estate to give them documents from AllGood and Lloyds lawsuits. Judge states that AEG has no standing to oppose to late requests from MJ Estate. Judge states both parties can request documents from MJ Estate.

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Request about Lloyd’s depositions

Katherine’s lawyers also served AEG with a request for all deposition transcripts and discovery and responses at Lloyds lawsuit on April 15. AEG is citing protective order on that case and refusing to turn those over to the Jacksons. No ruling posted on the online court system yet.

Rulings on motions in limine

Most of these motions were filed conditionally under seal so in most instances it’s impossible to tell what the main arguments are.

Judge starts both ruling stating that whether Murray was hired by AEG or not is a question for the jury to decide and therefore experts cannot provide an opinion that Murray was hired by AEG but they can answer hypothetical questions that assume Murray was hired by AEG.

AEG’s motion in limine


Exclude Jacksons expert Dr. Wohlgelernter (opinion 2) - Denied

Judge says Jacksons expert can testify that the equipment request by Murray was unconventional (red flag) for a 50 year old man with no heart disease. Judge says AEG’s expert can argue that the equipment request was for dehydration. Judge points out the jury will decide on what the reason for the equipment was and what AEG known or should have known about the request.

Exclude Jacksons expert Dr. Schnoll – Denied in part, granted in part

Granted in regards to opinions 1, 3, 14 : Jacksons withdrew opinions that “it was common knowledge that MJ had drug problems” and “AEG knew MJ had insomnia”. The opinion of “AEG’s choice of Murray killed MJ” is excluded as it’s argumentative.

“Murray was in a conflict of interest that lead to poor decisions as it concerns treatment for narcotics addiction” is permissible.

Denied as to opinions 2 and 4-13 : AEG’s opposition is based on the fact that Dr. Schnoll’s opinions are based on his assumptions such as “AEG knew MJ had trouble sleeping”. Judge states this is not a reason to exclude these opinions and AEG can attack the foundation of such opinions during testimony.

Exclude Jacksons expert Dr. Shimelman – Denied in part, granted in part

Denied as to opinions 1, 3-7, 9-12: As in the case of Dr. Schnoll these opinions are based on assumptions and again the judge points out AEG can attack the foundation of such opinions during testimony.

Granted in regards to opinions 2 and 8: Jacksons withdrew opinion 2. Judge excluded “ AEG was the only entity that could stop MJ’s addictions” as it’s pure speculation.

Judge also points out that Dr.Shimelman’s testimony is repetitive of Dr. Schnoll’s testimony in many points and expects that Jacksons will tailor their questions to these experts so it won’t be repetitive.

Exclude Jacksons expert Dr. Czeisler – Denied in part, granted in part

Denied as to opinion numbers 1-6 and 8
Granted as to opinion numbers 7 and 9
(No explanation given on judge’s ruling as what these opinions are)

Exclude Jacksons expert Arthur Erk– Denied in part, granted in part

Granted only as to the Tier 2 damages except future tours and royalty bump (which are permitted).

Court agrees with AEG that speculative damages are not allowed and this is why most of the items in Tier 2 such as amusement parks etc are excluded.

Judge says as MJ in the past participated in endorsement deals, clothing lines and movies, doing these in the future are considered as potential loss of income and not as “speculative”. Judge states that AEG can point out MJ’s failed endeavors in the past in their cross examination.

Exclude Jacksons expert Peter Formuzis– Denied in part, granted in part

Denied as to present value calculations, granted as only the opinions about future lost earnings and earnings capacity.

Exclude Jacksons expert Jean Seawright– Denied in part, granted in part

Granted as to the opinions that “AEG hired Murray” or “AEG was careless in their supervision of Murray “as it’s argumentative and a decision for jury. Denied as to human resources practices and standards.

Exclude Jacksons expert David Berman– Denied in part, granted in part

Granted as to the opinions that “AEG hired Murray”, “AEG put the tour happening over and above health of MJ” and also Berman’s opinions about who – AEG personnel or others – are credible or not. All of these are argumentative and is a question for the jury to decide.

Denied as to music artists management and relationships. Judge states Berman’s opinions based on his “common sense” is okay as long as they also rely on his 44 year experience in music industry.

Exclude Jacksons expert Dr. Matheson– Denied in part, granted in part

Granted as to the opinions that “AEG hired Murray” and “conflict of interest caused MJ’s death or was a substantial factor in MJ’s death” as they are argumentative and is a decision for jury.

Denied as to the opinions of ethics and conflict of interest among a physician (Murray), patient(MJ) and a third party(AEG). AEG had tried to exclude Dr. Matheson saying that he was a sports medicine expert and not a tour doctor. Judge finds out that Dr. Matheson’s expertise about doctor, athlete and coach/team owner is relevant and comparable to this situation.


Jackson’s motion in limine

Exclude AEGs expert Eric Briggs – Denied in part, granted in part

Granted as to the income / value of MJ Estate and its effect on damages. Jacksons also agreed that they will not introduce post-death increase in the value of MJ Estate and argue that the increase is an indicator of MJ’s earnings had he lived.

Denied as to MJ’s future earning potential – media/ entertainment rights.

Exclude AEGs expert William Ackerman – Denied in part, granted in part

Granted as to the amount Jacksons receive from MJ Estate including TII film proceeds.

Denied as to MJ’s debts as MJ’s financial condition at the time of his death has relevance to his future earnings potential.

Exclude AEGs expert Arnold Dicke – Denied

Dicke – an actuarial- has said he cannot testify to the exact number of years MJ would have lived however the judge has ruled that he can testify to a range of years, a general opinion of life expectancy and any deviation from standard life expectancy tables.

Exclude inquiry of business dealings and personal life of Jacksons experts Barry Nadell - Denied

Judge states Nadell has many other business and AEG can explore the amount of time – if any- Nadell actually spends on his background investigation business. Furthermore judge states Nadell’s testimony in which he said he didn’t realize his facebook was public implicates credibility and expertise in background investigations.

Exclude AEGs expert Rhoma Young – Denied in part, granted in part

Granted as to the opinion of “Murray was not hired”

Denied as to the opinion that “negotiations for an independent contractor” (more about this below).

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Independent contractor versus Employee

AEG and Jacksons were having disagreements about in regards to independent contractor and employee. They asked Judge for a clarification.

AEG claims as the judge has dismissed the respondeat superior, court found that Murray was an independent contractor and not an employee.

Jackson’s disagree and say that court’s ruling did not establish any facts and Jackson’s can argue to the jury that Murray was AEG’s employee.

Judge responds to clarification as it follows :

"Plaintiffs (Jacksons) asked for clarification that the court found Murray was “as a matter of law” not an employee”. The court finds that based on evidence presented at summary judgment that it is the “law of the case” Murray (assuming he was hired) was an independent contractor and not an employee. This is so because the court summarily adjudicated Plaintiffs (Jacksons) respondeat superior claim/ theory in favor of Defendants (AEG)”

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/128731-Katherine-Jackson-vs-AEG-Live-Full-Case-History-Summary/page3?p=3818199&viewfull=1#post3818199
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 2:20 am

posted by Nimue on Sunday, May 5th 2013 @ 5:34 PM


This article is from 2009:


Tuesday 17 Nov 2009 12:08 pm

Jackson doctor ‘suing’ sponsors


Murray didn't file a creditor claim to the Estate, and this was the right time to do so, instead
Jackson doctor ‘suing’ sponsors for unpaid expenses

Michael Jackson’s doctor Conrad Murray, who is still under investigation regarding the circumstances of the singer’s death, is preparing to launch a lawsuit against AEG for unpaid medical services that he provided for Jackson.

According to Miranda Sevcik, PR for Dr Murray’s lawyer Ed Chernoff, AEG owes Dr Murray $300,000 (£179,000). She claims that the company has been ‘dragging its feet’ over payment for two months of services.

Sevcik added that Dr Murray had not been paid a penny for his services, in spite of the fact that the doctor claims to have signed a binding deal with AEG before giving up his medical practice.

“Dr Murray needs the money, and he’s entitled to the money based on the contract he signed with AEG,” Sevcik added

She also stated that Dr Murray would not file a creditor’s claim against Jackson’s estate.

http://metro.co.uk/2009/11/17/jackson-doctor-suing-sponsors-for-unpaid-expenses-559885/
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PostSubject: Re: Opening Statements / Witnesses for KJ   16th September 2013, 2:36 am

Source:Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP


Toxicologist Dan Anderson

Court got started this morning with discussions of next witnesses. No Jackson family members here today.

Today’s testimony will be from coroner’s officials, including Dan Anderson and Christopher Rogers.

Dan Anderson is a toxicologist. Christopher Rogers performed Michael Jackson’s autopsy.Once Anderson and Rogers are done testifying, Katherine Jackson’s attorneys plan to call a couple experts.

Anderson is up first, and he spends the first few minutes testifying about his experience, credentials

He’s shown pictures of three prescription pill bottles found in Jackson’s bedroom: lorazepam, diazepam and Flomax.

Plaintiff’s attorney Michael Koskoff is doing questioning today. He uses a couple demonstrations so jury can understand drug quantities.

For grams, Koskoff shows jury a Sweet 'N Low pack -- says that’s roughly a gram of material.

To explain liquid volumes, Koskoff uses a syringe to draw a milliliter of cranberry juice into a syringe.

Anderson is also shown a photo of four bottles of 20ml of the anesthetic propofol found in Jackson's bedroom.

Anderson is then asked about a chart of prescriptions issued to Jackson. Chart was prepared by coroner, given to LAPD.

The chart shows the medications, how many doses were issued and how many remained at the time of Michael Jackson’s death.
Another series of charts show the propofol and other medications that were found in Jackson’s home.

So after 40 minutes of questioning, jurors have an overview of medications that were found in Jackson’s home.

Toxicologist Anderson tells jury it’s highly unusual to find injectable lorazepam and propofol in a home setting.

Anderson also explains where coroner’s staff take samples from within a body, and also how certain drugs are metabolized.

The toxicologist then explains to jurors what tests he ordered on Michael Jackson’s body. #JacksonTrial

“This particular case, we were looking for everything and anything.” _ toxicologist Dan Anderson on Jackson toxicology tests

Anderson walks jurors through a chart he prepared of the drugs found in Jackson’s system. Propofol and lidocaine found everywhere*.

*By everywhere, Anderson means blood taken from Jackson’s heart, femoral artery, liver, urine and in fluid behind eye.

Throughout Anderson’s testimony, the packet of Sweet ‘N Low and syringe of cranberry juice have remained on display in courtroom.

That's about as far as we got before the morning break -- will update next during the lunch hour. #JacksonTrial

We're on the lunch break in Jackson vs. AEG case. Toxicologist Dan Anderson will resume testifying at 1:30 p.m. PDT.

After morning break, toxicologist Anderson tells jury level of propofol in Jackson’s body is consistent with general surgery.

Koskoff asks Anderson about other cases LA coroner has handled where propofol was involved. AEG objects to showing chart of cases

Attorneys and judge went to sidebar to determine whether Anderson could discuss the chart of all propofol cases with jury.

After sidebar, Anderson tells jury about preparing a chart of all LA County deaths where propofol was found. Chart created after MJ’s death.

Coroner’s office continued to update the chart after Jackson’s death, Anderson tells jury. It now has 31 cases.

The first LA County death case where propofol was found dates back to 1999, Anderson says. It's updated as of a couple weeks ago.

The full chart of all coroner's propofol cases wasn't shown to the jury or explained in detail.

To put the 31 propofol cases in context, Anderson says coroner handles about 8,000 deaths a year. Roughly 5,000 involve toxicology screens.

Koskoff also asked Anderson about Demerol. Toxicologist says none was found in Jackson’s system.

Anderson told jury Demerol typically dissipates from a person's system with 12-16 hours.

Direct questioning of Anderson ends with him telling jury he didn’t find any recreational drugs in Jackson’s system.

Kathryn Cahan is the attorney handling cross-examination for AEG Live. She asks Anderson about his work on case.

Anderson was off on day Jackson died -- he found out about it from his child. He tells jury he suggested tests that were conducted.
Much of Anderson's cross examination is him explaining charts he prepared in greater detail.

Cahan notes that one chart shows 10 medications, with three doctors issuing them: Conrad Murray, Allan Metzger and Arnold Klein

She notes that the doctors were all prescribing certain medications that were supposed to be taken at bedtime. She asks if this is important

Anderson says his staff doesn’t take into account directions for taking meds, but how they’re found in toxicology screens.

Toxicologist Dan Anderson also explains that there were two visits to Jackson’s home where medications were collected.

On July 9th, Jackson’s family brought in additional medications they had found and thought investigators should have.

Anderson testifies by mid-July he knew the amount of propofol found in Jackson’s body was cause of death.

Anderson was still walking through drug charts he displayed in direct testimony before court broke for lunch.

Jackson redirect

Anderson was also asked about 31 death cases in LA where propofol was found. He makes clear, propofol not cause of death in all those cases. Jackson’s lawyer Koskoff highlighted seven cases where propofol was a cause of death; five cases were in residences. Six of the seven cases where a propofol overdose was a cause of death were deemed suicides, toxicologist Anderson testified. According to Anderson, Jackson’s case was the only one involving someone outside the medical field who overdosed on propofol in a home. (AP)

Anderson testified that Michael Jackson is the only person in Los Angeles County not in the medical field to die of propofol intoxication in their home in the last 14 years. The other six people who died at their homes were doctors or nurses who had access to the tightly controlled anesthetic. (LATimes).


ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts


Sumary of Negative Toxicological Findings. No Alcohol, Barbituates, Demerol, Zoloft, Xanax,Cocaine, Marijuana, Amthamphetamine, Codeine!

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP


. @Honeytania The scene urine was discussed, but no mention of DNA testing. Anderson said he assumed it was Jackson's.
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PostSubject: Coroner Christopher Rogers   16th September 2013, 11:32 am

posted by Nimue on Monday, May 6th 2013 @ 7:58 PM


Coroner Christopher Rogers Testimony


Jackson Direct

Christopher Rogers is the deputy medical examiner who performed MJ’s autopsy. He walks through his credentials and experience.(AP)

Rogers said he learned about MJ's death while at a conference. “Somebody passed me a note that Michael Jackson had died,” Rogers said. (Wave)

Dr. Christopher Rogers — who determined that Jackson’s death was a “homicide” told the jurors he gave added consideration to detail when determining the cause and manner of the MJ’s death because of the stature of the pop star.(Wave)

Rogers: “Because Michael Jackson was such a prominent individual, there was likely to be a great deal of press attention as well as from members of the public,” (Wave)

A black-and-white photo taken of Jackson’s body before autopsy is shown to the jury. It’s left on the screen for less than a minute. (AP) Rogers said the photo accurately depicted MJ’s condition at the time (wave).

Christopher Rogers testified that the 5-foot, 9-inch MJ weighed 136 pounds at the time of his death and that X-rays showed he suffered from arthritis in his lower spine and fingers (LATimes)

Rogers walks jury through a diagram of puncture wounds and scars on Jackson’s body. Punctures consistent w/ lifesaving efforts, he says. The origin of some of the scars couldn’t be determined. (AP)

Rogers also detailed how Jackson had his lips tattooed pink, his eyebrows and scalp inked with black. There were 3/4-inch scars behind both ears, suggesting he had at least one face lift, according to Rogers’ notes that he shared with jurors. (NYPost)

Rogers also testifies about MJ's vitiligo (AP). Rogers testified that MJ suffered from vitiligo a disease more common in African Americans, in which some areas of the skin are light and others are dark. (LATimes)

"It can be very disfiguring," Rogers said. (LATimes)

Rogers said Jackson’s post-mortem exam revealed no heart disease or Lupus, the autoimmune disease that some, Dr. Arnold Klein, have attributed to MJ (NYDailyNews).


Christopher Rogers said the MJ was in good health before his untimely 2009 death at the hands of Dr. Conrad Murray (NYDailyNews)

Jackson lawyer Koskoff asks Rogers about condition of MJ’s body. Koskoff asked whether Jackson’s body had any characteristics of a street drug addict. (Disease, track marks, liver damage.) Rogers says no. Rogers also testifies about the condition of Jackson’s organs. All were in good shape, other than some lung issues. (AP)

Rogers explained why he concluded that Jackson died from a propofol overdose. Koskoff asked Rogers whether his conclusions regarding Jackson’s death have changed since Aug. ’09. “No,” he responded. (AP)

Jackson lawyer Koskoff: “Would a fit, competent doctor administer propofol for insomnia?” Rogers: “I would not expect that, no,” (NYDailyNews)

Rogers also shot down suggestions that Jackson self-administered his lethal dose of propofol – a cornerstone theory of Murray’s defense.

“One possibility that we considered is that he might have given an overdose of propofol to himself. However based on the history that was available, I don’t believe that that happened,” Rogers said (NYDailyNews).

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May 7 Tuesday : Cardiologist Dr. Daniel Wohgelernter will testify first out of order. When the he is finished, Dr. Rogers from the Coroner's office will resume. (ABC7)

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PostSubject: Life expectancy figure   16th September 2013, 11:36 am

posted by Nimue on Tuesday, May 7th 2013 @ 5:34 AM


There are things in life people just don't want see



Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP

I must be blanking on something, but what's significance of lupus question during today's Jackson trial?


Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP

Plaintiff’s attorney Koskoff asks about other autopsy photos, but says he won’t show them. “They’re obviously very private.” _ Koskoff says.


Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP

Koskoff was about to introduce a table showing the life expectancy for a healthy 50-year-old man in California when AEG requested a sidebar.


Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP

They excused jury for the day without the life expectancy figure being offered in open court. It’ll be a bit before we hear that number.


Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP

It's impossible to know, but wondering how jury reconciles description of relatively healthy Jackson with portrayal in openings of addict MJ
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